TRANSCRIPT: The Midlife Shift #9: Andrew Daddo
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ALEX 00:34sec
You're watching the Midlife shift, and we're about to have a juicy conversation with Andrew Daddo, presenter, author, and that amazing voice behind the drunk driving reality show we've all watched, RBT.
Now, before, there were the hemsworths, there were the Daddos, right? There was literally a deluge or a dazzle of Daddos on Australian TV, right? So there was Cameron, older brother, yep, Andrew.
Andrew Daddo 1:00
Dad's a handsome one. You were all pretty handsome. You know, you were all pretty. I mean, we can all see it. We can still see this. It's okay. And then there's me, and lucky, and
Alex Brooks 1:11
Lucky's your younger brother right now. I all still close as a family.
Andrew Daddo 1:16
Yeah, we go, Well, I mean, we, we are. We're at highly functioning family of separate adults, if that makes sense. Do you know what I mean? Like, you know so we don't, you know, like, I'd spoke to my sister on the way here,
Alex Brooks 1:29
because there's an older sister as well. She, she missed out on the being a deluge of dads, though, didn't she? How'd she feel about not making it on TV?
Andrew Daddo 1:36
Fine. I'm sure she's we've never talked about it, never I've never talked about we've ever talked about it because it's not really seen,
Alex Brooks 1:45
because there's five of you. Your mother had five
Andrew Daddo 1:47
children. Yeah, that is a twin brother as well. Yeah, I noticed.
Alex Brooks 1:51
I know you're a twin. That's, I'm quite intrigued. Yeah, twins. I'm the godmother of some twins. Okay, it's kind of an interesting relationship, isn't it?
Andrew Daddo 2:00
Yes, we can talk about that. I can get to the
Alex Brooks 2:03
get to that one, but meanwhile, I'm still talking about the family, because you the brothers all, you all still live near each other, and said, yeah,
Andrew Daddo 2:10
when you're ish, so lock was round for dinner last Saturday night. That's nice. So that was nice. Yeah, I spoke to Binny this morning. We had a game of golf, me and cam and oh, did you lucky? And dad really three weeks ago.
Alex Brooks 2:26
So dad, guys do golf,
Andrew Daddo 2:28
my God,
Alex Brooks 2:30
who's the most competitive?
Andrew Daddo 2:32
Who's the best? Did I just answer your question? I don't know who the most competitive is. It said, Lucky is the least competitive dad is working on his golfing.
Alex Brooks 2:45
Tourette's what's golfing? Tourette swearing too much, yeah. Is that because when your kids are really good, it shames you as a father?
Andrew Daddo 2:52
No, I think. No, he gets, he thinks he should be better. He's 86 and he still
Alex Brooks 2:56
thinks, but he's, he's 23 Yeah.
Andrew Daddo 3:00
Cam is so we've got a friend who we go with, who's he said he's far more broken than I am as a golfer. Cam plays off 1110, or 11 or 12. So he's very good. She's very good.
Alex Brooks 3:16
That is a very good hand. I play off less than that. Oh, outrageous. So is your hand? Yes.
Andrew Daddo 3:22
At the moment, I'm seven, that's pretty good, yeah. So I'm, I sort of oscillate between five and seven, that's pretty good, yeah. But the other bike said he's more broken than me. Whereas, you know, like, Oh, why this? Thinks about the shot, the whole thing, whereas I think about it all the time. I'm a tinkerer. Anyway, you can talk about that later as well. We can't start talking about golf because it's a scary
Alex Brooks 3:49
golf widow. I think I said this my my husband is literally playing golf this afternoon because he wants to get his handicap down because he had a bad score. Okay, yeah.
Andrew Daddo 3:57
I understand that entirely. Yeah. I find that really working on his putting and chipping.
Alex Brooks 4:01
I don't really know what's his handicap, 16. He's a good golfer, yeah, but he's not. He's not, he's not. No, he's not. But he, when he's not playing golf, he is watching YouTube
Andrew Daddo 4:14
golf. Yes, that's, that's right,
Alex Brooks 4:16
that's a rabbit hole like YouTube golf. So you don't have a golf YouTube channel? Do you have a golf TV
Andrew Daddo 4:21
show? I had a golf TV show. You may well have another golf TV show, I hope. And you don't do only because I liked, I liked it. I liked doing it and I liked I have a golf podcast
Alex Brooks 4:35
called golf. What do you talk about? Golf series?
Andrew Daddo 4:40
Okay, so, no, no, it's so it's like, what you're doing now, yeah, I do what you what you're now doing, just which is talking, but it's about passion, right? So because that, because that's the whole that is the only thing that's really interesting in any interview with any like, if they're, if they're a seismologist, or whatever they are. Are. Once you start sort of digging into what they what actually gets them going? It doesn't, yeah, if they can talk about it in a coherent way, but with passion, I'll listen to anyone. Okay, so that's kind of the thing.
Alex Brooks 5:13
What is it that makes you passionate about theball?
Andrew Daddo 5:16
It's, I think it's the relentless No, no. It's not that, yeah, sometimes it's the you don't get to win very often. That's the thing. But it's the relentless challenge of the game, right? And the fact that I can't, I can't settle on, you know, one set of clubs. You know, there are people have the same clubs,
Alex Brooks 5:34
yes, and you can get fitted for your clubs, but
Andrew Daddo 5:36
I don't. I buy mine on eBay. I've made my own wedges. I build my own putters out of wood, like I shape them.
Alex Brooks 5:44
And really need a YouTube channel for that, because I'm pretty sure there'd be an, there'd be any,
Andrew Daddo 5:48
yeah, but like, when you make a wooden putter and you, you know, you drill holes in it, and you melt sinkers and you weight them to the perfect thing of where you wanted to interesting. I know, no, it's fascinating. It's actually the first time I did it. My wife, I'm sitting there to our garage, sort of faces the house like this. And so I'm in the thing, and I've, you know, torched the sinker like this. I'm burnt it in a with a butane burner in the in the garage, in a tuna and I finished, no, no. And she goes, what were you doing? What are you doing in there? And I went, and I started explaining. She I said, why? And she goes, You look so happy.
Alex Brooks 6:24
Isn't that nice? It's nice that she can recognize that you like it. Because I'm kind of the same. I'm like, whatever floats your boat. But I do have friends, like, even female friends are very obsessed with golf, right? I've got a friend who's developed a golfing app, yeah, called Wind caddy, so you can measure, you know, the weather when you're about
Andrew Daddo 6:43
to, oh, that would be cheating. And
Alex Brooks 6:46
that was kind of my question. That's what I was going to ask. I think
Andrew Daddo 6:49
that is illegal.
Alex Brooks 6:50
And, oh, really. And then,
Andrew Daddo 6:53
actually, think that is, I actually, anyone
Alex Brooks 6:57
else stuff the golf course?
Andrew Daddo 6:58
No. So this is the, this is the attraction of the game. You can't beat the game, right? So you can have moments of being, of okay, of being good at the game, but you can never beat that the game will always win, right? And then there's all these rules around it, and the rules are what make it even harder and and more even, right? You know, it's a bit like cricket. You can't kick the ball. You can't just sort of nudge it across. You can't, okay, you can't have an app that says, I don't believe you can. I might be wrong that you look at your app and it says, wins playing for 25 ks from the east, you know? Because really choose this thing,
Alex Brooks 7:35
make this wedge, you know, that's legal. That's Well, is it? And then what do you do when you lose a golf ball? Do you get upset when you
Andrew Daddo 7:45
lose golf balls? One of the great joys of my life is finding golf balls.
Alex Brooks 7:48
Yeah, same with my husband. He he used to do it as a kid. It's like this really kid reward thing, and he still gets excited. Yeah, so bizarre. Middle Aged half Yeah,
Andrew Daddo 8:00
it's, no, it's about the pursuit, okay? It's about finding things. It's like, never ending quest, yeah, yeah, but it's but, but finding golf balls is like saving money, right, right? It's the same thing. It's like going to the supermarket and standing there and go, No, we're going to talk about money, but it's like, and I'll just jump ahead to save us that, right? But it's the same thing as saying that supermarket going, alright, so peanut butter is $7.44 for whatever 500 grams, right? But it's, but it's, it's $4.30 for 300 grams. So hang on a second. That's cost, unit price, yeah. And so it's like, you stand there and you stand there and you have your little wins there, and you go, yes, yes. And then you go on a parking ticket and blow it all away, or whatever it is. But finding golf balls is probably a bit like that. The balls are probably shit, right? Yeah, there's probably no good, but it's a little you use them for practice where you hit them away. And I
Alex Brooks 8:55
heard that on my husband's golf course. Some of the birds steal the golf
Andrew Daddo 8:59
Yeah, the crows
Alex Brooks 9:04
who can pick up a golf ball in that
Andrew Daddo 9:06
that's amazed. And there must be a mother load of there's a spot where they drop them. It's a gold at the end of the rainbow, right? That's and that's the golfers. It's the golfers rainbow. And you'd sort of spend your life
Alex Brooks 9:22
going, who would be the happiest of all the dads to find that be? No, I would be you. Yeah. So you're the golf ball Maestro. And now I like that your wife recognized how happy you were, because I did want to ask about all you dad knows, are still on your first wives. Now I'm on my second spouse. Okay? It like, it's quite a unique thing to it is, yeah, and I wanted to ask about that, like, how do you do that? You don't know.
Andrew Daddo 9:48
You just know our role model, our family role model, is very good to Mum and Dad, if whatever they are, 60 years married,
Alex
wow, that's pretty good. My wife's parents. Uh, were one marriage, okay? Uh, Al's Mum and Dad, no, I don't think they are Lachie’s wife's one marriage. Bindi’s, husband one marriage. Wow. So I think if you're if what you what you're seeing in front of you is one thing, and you sort of learn, you know, conversation and respect and all those things, and then, theoretically, it should work. I also find, personally, I can't speak for the other fellas, I find my wife incredibly attractive. Like, no, but, like, genuine,
ALEX
beautiful. So it is. So is, you know,
ANDREW
she's interesting. She keeps me in check.
Alex Brooks 10:38
She's, does she tell you about golf.
Andrew Daddo 10:42
Uh, hilariously, she has tried to, because I've given her lessons, so she's now accepting what she accepts. Now that I do know
Alex Brooks 10:52
more, we know quite a lot, because your handicap is very good,
Andrew Daddo 10:55
yeah, so she'll but she has gone, you know, it might be a bit quick there. Did you step up a big pen.
ALEX
Is she criticizing your golf game?
ANDREW
No, she's trying to help. So there will be moments where she where it is, she may well be right. You're okay with that helping, yeah? Because, if I because I know when I do. I basically know what I do wrong when it happens.
Alex Brooks 11:15
Okay, so this is interesting, yeah, okay, and you've
Andrew Daddo 11:19
got, yeah, three kids, it's
Alex Brooks 11:21
hard, isn't that right? Having kids and then they get older. Now your daughter has written about you online and how embarrassing you were turning up to her game in speedos. Now do tell me about being a dad of older kids. Is it harder? Of older kids? Yeah. Is it harder now they're older, or is it easier?
Andrew Daddo 11:44
Look, I want to drop my kid theory. What's my whole my whole parenting theory? Do share it? So, so it all starts, so it all in the beginning, right? And it's all in it's all based around shit, right? So actual
Alex Brooks 11:58
starts with nappies, yeah, so the first poo, right? Meconium poo,
Andrew Daddo 12:03
the meconium poo, the black one after their ball, yeah, we'll put that one aside and we'll go to the seeded mustard, right? All right, yeah. So just that one. So it's and when they go, you gotta clean that up, you know? And you go, and it's actually no problem, because it's fine. It's like, literally, it doesn't smell, doesn't smell, it's of no consequence. It's not that bad, you know. And then solids come in, and then it gets a little bit more interesting. But the thing is that you've had the warm up, right? So you've had a chance to actually get rid, get ready for it. Then the first solids, I can't believe we're talking about this, the first solid. And then there's, like, it's, it's, it's not that bad. And so by the time they're eating chops and sausages and stuff like that, and it's horrendous, then it is bad, yeah, but then you manage to, but you're, you're pushing towards that moment you've ramped and I think you're
Alex Brooks 12:51
on a ramp to, yeah, you are. Have you got a wedge that you
Andrew Daddo 12:56
Parenting is a similar, it's a similar sort of thing, like, in a weird way, because everything that happens, you have a moment of it before, where you get a small moment of it, okay, pretty much, right? Yeah. So going out at night, coming home late, telling the first lie, you know, whatever it is, you know, not wearing the right clothes, not wearing enough clothes, whatever they are
ALEX
wearing, Speedos,
ANDREW
I had a towel around my waist.
Alex Brooks 13:24
He just, he's just reminding everyone I had a
Andrew Daddo 13:27
towel around my waist. That was apparently as bad. Oh, really. Now I was definitely not wearing speedos at the game. I was had a towel. I had a towel around my waist
Alex Brooks 13:38
now, but you, you're always going to embarrass your children, right? That's just the law.
Andrew Daddo 13:42
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think so, like, you know, all they'll say, you can't say that. What have you said? That's like, lots of things, like lots and lots of, I can't you couldn't even, no no. Like saying the wrong like not being aware of, you know, the new social norms, the you know. So I said, you know, I know we sort of, we talked about questions, and, you know, there was a, there was something you were, you know, in your plan. And I like that your plan is just completely going out the window, as always the first two. So Alex's first question was something about, what do you miss from the 90s? Yeah, my answer was going to be hair, right? I had the most beautiful hair. You actually did great. It was like, dare I say, it even got to the point of being like, beautiful. Michael Hutchence
Alex Brooks 14:28
type here. It was actually quite like that. That was a very big 80s. No, I don't want to get the
Andrew Daddo 14:33
hair out of my eyes. I just sort of pushed my eyebrows back so. But anyway, and then the next thing, and the other thing about was, and so this is that, this is the thing I'm getting to, the thing about the kids and saying the wrong thing. And then the other thing was that I really miss about the 90s was being able to go out with just genuine gay abandon and and just have fun, you know, like you'd be at a pub, you'd smoke durries, you'd, you know, you'd just, there was no phone. There's no phones. And it was. Joy fines, but I said gay abandon. And they said, you know, are you gonna say gay? And I said, Yeah, because it doesn't. It didn't. Did not mean it was about a joyful you know, it was, didn't mean that. And she and they said, No, you can't So, so when I say, they correct me. It's things like that. To say, protect you from
Alex Brooks 15:15
yourself, yes, unless you put your foot in your mouth, yeah. And I do that all the time, yeah.
Andrew Daddo 15:19
But I don't think that's which I think is good. And the other thing you know, like, they can all cook, and they can all cook very well. That's good. I made a carbonara. And one goes, Can you not put all the pasta in? Just put as much pasta as you think we need, and then save the rest? Because you just sort of,
Alex Brooks 15:39
you're not doing the right sauce to pasta ratio.
Andrew Daddo 15:41
And went, she goes, how's it cooking with yourself? And I wait, oh, do you cook like that? No, no, no. I like I'll say, you know, I say, why don't you chuck some anchovies in that meat sauce there? Because by the time it's that salt and that flavor is going to be really nice through the
ALEX
so you're helpful cook and a helpful golfer, yeah, no,
ANDREW
no. But see, they're like, I'm not putting anchovies in so anyway, but I, I take on board their what this what they're saying? Okay, you know what I mean. So don't just wipe them off. Like, maybe that's the difference between sort of our generation and the generation ahead of us. If you, you know, you said to your mum and dad had to do
Alex Brooks 16:15
something, yeah, they'd just look at you like they had five heads. But Your mum is interesting, right? Five kids was that would have been a hard slog, I reckon, like, maybe I'm just, you know, but you've said Your mum's quite interesting, that she was a white witch and that she was a naturopath and a color therapist,
ANDREW
color therapist. Come on.
ALEX
And your dad was like a businessman,
Andrew Daddo 16:39
right? Just listen on the radio coming here, and they're talking about two opposites. Do opposites attract? And, my God, you know, very, oh yeah, yeah. And, well, that's really good. So it is really, really good, yeah. But they're, you know, obviously, they have their moments. They drive each other fairly well, nuts. But they're not like they're, it's a very good functional, you know, they can play golf together. They, you know, they play golf together too, the family. That's how we learned, oh my goodness, they're 86 and 85
ALEX
that's pretty good.
ANDREW
Mum still wails on the ball like, just genuine. She backswing, goes to over here like this, and she just smacks it
Alex Brooks 17:17
so, so do you all ever like, do family golf with
Andrew Daddo 17:21
mum. Oh, you mean, like the timeless family reserve, you mean the trophy that we played for two weeks ago.
Alex Brooks 17:26
Oh, really, yeah, you really are into golf, yeah. Oh, but it's
Andrew Daddo 17:31
okay, but so, but again, so the timeless family reserve a trophy. So I'm the trophy maker of the family,
ALEX
and the wedge maker and the wedge maker and the part about
ANDREW
but now that so I get a bit of shit for making trophies, because they're like, oh, not everything's a contest. And, but
Alex Brooks 17:48
who says that your children or your siblings? Yes, okay, siblings
Andrew Daddo 17:53
and, and I have to say to them, it's not, it's yes, it's about a contest, but it's also, it's a tool and a mechanism to bring us all together.
Alex Brooks 18:02
Oh, look at you. Yeah, so you're like, you're a little bit white witch yourself.
Andrew Daddo 18:05
No, no, I'm not. I'm just saying, if you want to have a if you want to bring everyone together for a reason, yeah, right. And it's not just, instead of sitting around, like, well, you drink and have dinner or whatever afterwards. So you do all the normal get together things afterwards. But if you want to have something to do, we can warm up to whatever it is that has to be warmed up to. There's a game to play or a way to do it, not a bad way to do it. Okay? No, to me,
Alex Brooks 18:29
which is your, think about it, golf club. Is your golf club? Or do you not? Yeah, play the long reef. You like long? It's pretty nice. That long. Yeah, it's, it's, it's on the ocean. It's very, yeah, yeah,
Andrew Daddo 18:41
it's a windy, bloody, looks easy and it's hard. Oh, it's a hard.
Alex Brooks 18:46
Oh, so your handicap is extra special. No, my
Andrew Daddo 18:49
handicap lower than if I played places with lots of trees. I you do better? No, I do
Alex Brooks 18:54
worse. Oh, really, excess trees. Oh, trees worse than woody freezers you gotta have over trees. Oh, okay, that's how much attention I pay to my husband. Yeah, that's the other thing.
Andrew Daddo 19:06
That's another good reason that we're all still married. I don't think we talked about partners really, about how'd you play good? How'd you play bad? Oh, okay, you know. Okay.
Alex Brooks 19:15
Now I do want to go back to the 90s because, you know, I just don't think we talk about it enough, yeah. And your brother, do you really? Yeah, I really liked her 90s. It was, it was a pretty good time to be alive. Of course, most people now appear to be born in the 90s and sort of missed it and later, yeah. How did that happen? Like, What shocks you most about being older? When I catch myself and I have to say how old I am, I'm like, oh, oh, the 90s was, uh, yeah, good, 30 years ago now. Like, how did that happen? Does that shock or is it just me?
Andrew Daddo 19:50
No, no, it
Alex Brooks 19:51
doesn't. Because, like you, you live the 90s. You, you were a VJ on MTV. Right? There is nothing probably more 90s than
Andrew Daddo 20:03
that. No, I think I was the first Australian VJ, but it only lasted a year.
Alex Brooks 20:08
But that's because it's brutal in America, right?
Andrew Daddo 20:10
Also, my now wife came and stayed with me for three months, and I realized I didn't actually want to be there. Oh, like I wanted to come home.
Alex Brooks 20:18
And so how old were you when you met your wife, 23 and you still 24 that's so nice. Yeah, it's pretty good. We basically, were you based in New York when you lived
Andrew Daddo 20:29
in on Manhattan. Say, that's, it's pretty amazing. Yeah, and,
Alex Brooks 20:34
and you introduced, like, who blew your mind when you were doing it? Like, because you interviewed a lot of people. You did a lot of hosting, like Madonna was my idol in the 90s.
Andrew Daddo 20:45
So I didn't get access to Madonna because you missed AC DC, because they were they'd been drinking, and they were very late, and so they were too late,
Alex Brooks 20:55
sort of more 70s, 80s guys really ACDC, but they were your heroes.
Andrew Daddo 21:00
McPherson came in once. This is quite funny. And so sitting there going, and this is the height of the body, right? Yeah, because she was very Connolly anyway. So Elle Macperson comes in. We're sitting next to each other on this on this couch, right? So there's the just like one couch, and she's sitting there, and she's got it this leg, long legs under this leg, and so it's her knee is, there's my knee, there's my knee, and there's her extended knee like this. And she's sitting there, and she kept when, sorry, when she's making a point. She kept cutting my cutting my leg, not her leg, right? And I can hear in I can hear, this is the best looking woman in the world, right? There's two young guys here going like this guy. And anyway, so she's patting my leg, in in the in the cans, in the headphones of the cameraman. I can hear the director Beth screaming, oh, my god.
Alex Brooks 21:57
Was it like some Paula Yates on the couch on London TV.
Andrew Daddo 22:01
No, no, no, wasn't. No, there was nothing in it. There's nothing in it. But because if I could hear her yelling, she could hear her yelling, oh, so she's in, she's there to promote whatever. So that was kind of probably her bra range, wasn't I Benton, whatever it was. Yeah, that was
Alex Brooks 22:17
her bra range. Yeah. And
Andrew Daddo 22:18
then Billy Connolly came in, and he was and I was and I was like, far out. This is the funniest man, literally the funniest man in the world, very but he was there to promote his show, his head of the class, no, no. His first show, yeah, TV show where he became the new teacher in his acting, yes. And he and said, He's the funniest man. And he did not say one single funny thing, because he was there as an actor, not as a not as Billy Connolly, I just went, Oh my god. So it was quite
Alex Brooks 22:47
a tough interview to do. Then, nice.
Andrew Daddo 22:51
It was fine. What was interesting about MTV Is this the first show was the morning program, yeah, where you had guests come in, you know, like a morning show,
Alex Brooks 22:58
yeah, that's like, Good morning Australia, or whatever. Same
Andrew Daddo 23:01
with Gordon Elliot. So the same sort of thing. And then he graduated from that to mid morning, then lunchtime, then afternoon. Evenings, it was like, Yeah, endless TV. The morning thing was the only place where you got to talk to people. And then once you graduate, it was just you and a green screen going, here's the new one from Aerosmith again. This is Janet Jackson again. So it was actually, I quite like Janet Jackson. Yeah, she was great, but you weren't. You didn't speak to them. You just introduced them. Oh, yeah.
Alex Brooks 23:31
So is that why you didn't like the job? Because it was a bit green screening, yeah?
Andrew Daddo 23:36
And, and in it, they don't, which you never meant to find out. They told they got my research, and they did my, my market research, and they did it in Iowa, right? Yeah. So, you know, they do, yeah,
Alex Brooks 23:49
they test you, right, yeah, because you were very dazzling on TV.
Andrew Daddo 23:55
So the main, the main research, was something like, you know, he looks nice. He's got a nice smile. He must be funny, because he laughs a lot, but we can't understand a thing he says. And so for him to, I think for American MTV, it was just too soon the Aussie accent, you know, I got in trouble for saying, just, did you swear on TV? No, I'd say dumb things like, you know, is it true that the lead singer gets all that, gets the best looking girls, and then it's a drip feed down to the drummer, and the for some producer came out, and he goes, How dare you say that? And I went, it's a joke. Well, it's kind of
Alex Brooks 24:39
Australians would get that joke, but it wasn't
Andrew Daddo 24:41
malicious, and it wasn't a and actually wasn't saying it to anyone. I did it as a green screen, you know. Oh, so as an introducing, say, poison, for instance, and made that joke, sort of joke. And see, this is
Alex Brooks 24:53
why you're such a good presenter, because you just green screen so much when you were so young that you can talk about anything. Is that what it is? No, no. Because you've,
Andrew Daddo 25:00
you've got a presenter. Oh, well,
Alex Brooks 25:03
I think, I think you're okay. RBT, don't take just anyone, Andrew
Andrew Daddo 25:09
and what I've only had one go so.
Alex Brooks 25:11
RBT have done how many series? It's a lot of series. Yeah, we're
Andrew Daddo 25:15
about to, I just got an email yesterday. We're going to series 17. They're like
Alex Brooks 25:22
neighbors and home, in a way. It's like an institution in Australia.
Andrew Daddo 25:25
I think it should. I don't think we've ever been like I've never been to the Logies on the back of it or anything like that. You know, it's not that sort of a show, no?
Alex Brooks 25:34
My husband, who I do dearly love, even though he's plays a lot of golf, he also loves RBT. It's one of his favorite shows. He calls it bogans behaving badly, yeah, which the Americans wouldn't let me say on TV
Andrew Daddo 25:45
either, right? No, I don't think so.
Alex Brooks 25:49
It's, it's, it's a unique kind of show. Yeah, it's for people who've never watched it. They really, they don't know what they're missing, right?
Andrew Daddo 25:57
Yeah, it's a sad show. No, it's actually made it sad, because it's about human frailty, like, like, with that being that really overthinking it, it is genuinely about human frailty. It's about people who are TV, who are drinking, and they said a lot of drugs now, so the drugs, which is catastrophic, drinking is catastrophic. So really, the premise of the program, which started as being very serious, and it sort of drifted into quite fun. Now, when it needs to be serious, it's serious, but, yeah, so in that sense, there's a, it's like, it's not good. Occasionally there's a good story, but it's often bad stories,
Alex Brooks 26:33
but it's very Australian, yeah, nothing else quite like it, yeah.
Andrew Daddo 26:36
Like, you know, there's a, there's a the famous and pick up a picked up by a mate. So guy gets hammered,
Alex Brooks 26:43
gets caught. Is this the one that's on YouTube
Andrew Daddo 26:47
and he gets done? So he calls a mate. That's right, it's
Alex Brooks 26:49
called, call a mate. Google it on YouTube? Yes. And he probably
Andrew Daddo 26:54
calls his mate, and his mate goes, Yeah, I'll take you home. So they might picks up. They drive off. The cops get him. He's pissed, and then they get it. They could even get another one, and there's another episode, so I don't see it, right? I don't see the stories. I get the script, and we work through the script and goes with this work. We try this joke, or, you know, like a tiny bit, if it, if I've got something to add, and it dripping
Alex Brooks 27:18
down to the drama, maybe, yeah,
Andrew Daddo 27:20
Jesus was that bad? Is that bad? No, I think that's good. No, no, was that bad to say that about the lead singer?
Alex Brooks 27:27
I don't think so at all. I used to say way worse things about drummers.
Andrew Daddo 27:31
And what do you call someone who hangs out with musicians? What a drummer So see stuff like that. Yeah. Anyway, so there's a there's a so you get the script. Anyway, I'm reading one of them and, and I guess this don't understand this guy spitting. What do you mean? He spit? Like, what do you mean? Like, I don't and you hadn't seen the visuals honestly. And so I said they okay, we'll get it. So they showed me the vision, and it's literally a guy who had a saliva problem in his mouth. And it was hilarious.
Alex Brooks 27:59
What do you mean? A saliva,
Andrew Daddo 28:02
very much saliva, and over his saliva gland. So he, I guess that would, so he just literally drive along and like he's on chewing tobacco out the window. And of course, if there's speed and wind and stuff like that, just these his doors bloody black.
Alex Brooks 28:17
We used to call that flag slag and slagging, swagging. I don't even know if our children wouldn't know that term swagging. So, oh my gosh, yeah,
Andrew Daddo 28:29
so things like that. So you get so that's what I mean. It's about human frailty, you know? And and people say yes to being filmed.
Alex Brooks 28:36
And now I know, because this is what baffles me, right? And now people know it's your voice. I bet you. They've never put that together, ever. Yeah, I'm gonna go back to the 90s, because your brother was on Melrose Place, which was one of my favorite things of the 90s, right? I know he was blinking. You miss it. No, he
Andrew Daddo 28:55
wasn't, was he? I don't think he was. I think he had, he had another show. He's on a show called models, Inc, I remember that, but he was on Melrose Place.
Alex Brooks 29:02
I thought he went, I thought he did a guest shot, a guest appearance on Melrose. Well, you would know better than me, but, you know, I did a whole lot of Googling, and I found things that were highly inaccurate. So the dados are clearly the source of misinformation. Now I've just speaking of Australians. I'm very interested in AI and I just met this AI professor who told me that some of the Australian AI bots he's training, they teach themselves to swear. None of the other countries teach themselves to swear. I think that's interesting.
Andrew Daddo 29:34
I think AI is interesting. It
Alex Brooks 29:36
is interesting. Well, we don't know whether to be deeply afraid or deeply excited, we should probably be both. Maybe, yeah,
Andrew Daddo 29:43
I think it's a middle ground. I think we should be deeply careful. Well, I've, I've had deeply suspicious.
Alex Brooks 29:48
I've had my first AI bot spread disinformation about me, right on. It's so interesting, because everyone thinks I'm a man, right?
Andrew Daddo 29:55
Because my name's Alex, Yeah, mate,
Alex Brooks 29:58
he didn't swear. Yeah, they tried to say, Are you the Alex Brooks that scammed some people in Brisbane? Wow, yeah. Like, it was full on. Yeah. That's why, see, that's why RBT is so good. That's just
Andrew Daddo 30:12
real people. It's a real story, real things, yeah, and it's, I mean, I remember AI is all made up speaking at a conference. Oh, yeah, as you do a bit. And what was him saying, actually? And I talked to tell me about, because I write kids books, we said the intro and to write, you know,
Alex Brooks 30:28
25 books, right? It's quite a lot of books, yeah,
Andrew Daddo 30:32
and yeah, yeah, it is, genuinely, is hard work. It is hard work. But I talked about someone said, you know, we trying to do Phil for conferences. And they said, You know what happened? What's your process? And I said, Well, when? Well, why bother? Why do you do it? And so I said, at this thing, when my kids were young, we played the story game, right? So their kids, they'd whisper a word to you, and then you'd do a story, and you put all the words in the story, and and then, and then you'd, they'd have to work out a what the word was, and who gave that word?
Alex Brooks 31:02
Ah, right. It's like a quiz show. So it's like, yeah, story time, Quiz Show,
Andrew Daddo 31:07
yeah. So they sit there and they go, elephant. I said elephant. Felix said elephant. Or I said, No, I wasn't Felix. And they go, but elephants, right? So they'd work it out, right? So if you had six kids for a sleepover, anyway, so I told this story just as a neither here nor there thing for
Alex Brooks 31:19
your conference storytelling. Yeah, because you present conferences, yeah, as well as RBT,
Andrew Daddo 31:24
yeah. And then, and then, so the next speaker gets up and he goes, just, and he's an AI guru, right, worth millions, and he was, like, a really, really, really big deal. What's his name? Can't remember. He was loaded anyway. No, I wouldn't have a clue. I literally wouldn't have a clue. Oh, because you didn't ask. No, I introduced him. I did his full bio, and did all that business, but I don't recall. No, life problems. No, no, it's not I just the information was required, and then the information has been let go, you know. Anyway, he said he goes, Hey, cute story, by the way, Andrew, but you're done. Your time is done. Because what I did the same thing on chat GPT, and I say, I've only got two minutes to tell a story. So I write in, I put their words in, yeah, for a two minute story, and then we all watch the words on the screen revolve, and I read the two minute story that chat GPT delivers. And I was like, that's the second saddest thing I've ever heard. Yeah, you've kind of missed the point.
Alex Brooks 32:22
They have missed them. Missed the magic of a story,
Andrew Daddo 32:24
right? Yeah. And also the Yeah, the creation of the Yeah, exactly that it's
Alex Brooks 32:29
human, is what makes it interesting, yes, because a machine can make a zipper, and they can make a very good, functional zipper, yeah. But no one's rap, you know, rhapsodizing about a zipper. Are they that we just go, does it work? Well, yeah,
Andrew Daddo 32:42
when you mostly talk about a zipper in traffic, and you sit there and you go in Melbourne, especially, you go, it's a zipper, right? Two lanes to one, it's a zipper. We all come in one at a time, it's a zipper.
Alex Brooks 32:54
Oh, I didn't even know that. Never heard that. No, we didn't have that in Adelaide.
Andrew Daddo 32:59
Well, Adelaide people have grace on the roads, right? Sydney, people are actually pretty good. If there's a spot to jump in Melbourne, it's like this, no, no, no, no.
Alex Brooks 33:09
Okay, so you need to bring this up on RBT. You should really add some human serendipity. If you add that to your next 30 minute show, it's no time now you have actually said, though, in your house, you don't do a lot of TV, and you don't have phones at the table or anything like that. This is something I've read this TV,
Andrew Daddo 33:29
definitely there is, of course, there is, because they have to watch their dad on TV. That show. I'm a celebrity, right? Yeah, yeah.
Alex Brooks 33:39
I was getting she's like, the most torturous show on all of television,
Andrew Daddo 33:44
isn't it? Yeah, was it for everyone on it so boring. But anyway, do you not like it? No, no. It's just literally one of the most boring things that you've ever had. Literally nothing to do. You're like, put in a
Alex Brooks 33:54
large pen, yeah? But you have no food, they make you do horrible things, yeah?
Andrew Daddo 33:59
Anyway, what happened? What? So besides that, sorry, just gonna bring drag it up anyway, so they would watch it every night, to watch it to the point where Felix goes, Can we now? It must have been 10 years ago. So, yeah, yeah. So, and he said, Do we have to watch this? Can we not sit at the table and eat peace. No one, rather than watching down on TV, you know, because no one gets to tell stories. No one gets to So the whole point, right? Like, genuinely, the point of the whole, the great thing that's sitting at the table is that you sit there and you go, you get to share a moment of your day, if you're fast enough, right? Get in, yeah, because you've got three kids, five of you So, and that. And that is literally, whereas, if you're just still watching the telly, it's pretty it's actually pretty dull. Yeah, I would concur. And so we, and we do have a no so no TV on when dinner's on, no phones, because when dinner's on phones,
Alex Brooks 34:54
such a conversation. Is what you've said. That's what I read. Yeah, I think that's quite articulate. You didn't get that from chat GPT?
Andrew Daddo 35:01
No, I think I did. I think it was before chat GPT fans are shit.
Alex Brooks 35:06
Well, they're interesting because you can sort of Google search anything you want to, but there's a lot of it's not always accurate, right. Now, I'm going to ask about the good things about getting older. What's been interesting about moving to midlife, besides getting better at golf? Um, well,
Andrew Daddo 35:29
haven't actually got any better. Haven't gone any better. I'm just I've been the same for since I was 20.
Alex Brooks 35:35
Get out. Yeah, really, yeah. Is that a disappointment to you? Right? Is that because you were just so good. It's a
Andrew Daddo 35:41
good marks. It's a good mark. It's good to be good. It's like, it's the to fight to stay good, is the thing, right? You know what I mean, without saying, like, too big a wanker, let's go. Let's the moving to middle age. Yeah. I remember once mum said, she goes, Oh boy, you guys are in your middle age now. And I was like, What? What are you talking about? You know, she said, Have you not got past him reflection lately and gone. Who the hell is that? And why not? Like, I remember doing a job once, and looked and there was big screens on the thing and not chatting away. And I've looked up and seen myself on a screen. I went, I'm bald, right? I knew I was bald, but I had no idea how bald. Do you know what I mean? Like, I know it sounds I don't know what you
Alex Brooks 36:35
mean. No, it
Andrew Daddo 36:36
sounds ridiculous. But like you sort of, you know we, we can all stand in front of a mirror and find an angle and go, pretty good mate. You're going all right, right. And then you'll be right even to you young guys, right now, yeah, yeah. And then, and then you'll have other times when you walk past reflection and look who is that person, you stop and go, wriggle around, and then you find the spot and go, huh?
Alex Brooks 37:06
So your mum told you all you’re middle aged, did you break your heart?
Andrew Daddo 37:09
No, okay, that's, that's, that's solid. I actually, I mean, obviously there's, you know, well,
Alex Brooks 37:16
none of us look the same, I think when we were 20, but that's not a bad thing, right? No, do you want to look the same as you did when you were 20? I mean, like Madonna kind of doesn't look, you know, it's an
Andrew Daddo 37:28
interesting question
Alex Brooks 37:31
Mickey Rourke, if he's not looking so hot for his age.
Andrew Daddo 37:34
But also, like, if you if I think, if, well, I think the answer is, so I don't actively use any product to try and make myself look better. Do you know what I mean? Like not
Alex Brooks 37:45
even a bit of hair wax. Sorry.
Andrew Daddo 37:52
All right, so you're not, so don't. So I don't, I'm not actually using creams or any of that sort of stuff to and we had a
Alex Brooks 38:01
stunning year. We had holiday recently, and we
Andrew Daddo 38:07
went to Sri Lanka. It's great. It's great. It's like between Bali and India. Anyway they go. So we went to this sort of herd place, garden thing, and, and they basically, they say, so, this is cinnamon. This is the cinnamon plant and does this, and this is sandalwood, and does and then they look at you and they go, so sandalwood is good for cholesterol, bags under your eyes. You could probably use Sandalwood sandwich. Very good sun spots and elevated erectile dysfunctional, age maladies, because in the end, in the end, they're going to take you to a room with a big room with shopping room, you know, where you buy all the stuff. So I don't know why. Actually, it's, I bought the sandalwood oil, and he goes and because when you put it on the guru, is a guru, right? Guru, swami, yeah, yeah, the dreads and all that stuff. So he's so while he's rubbing it onto my face like this, and it did feel good, like in the in this sort of forest, he's probably gonna have looked up to look to him, and he's got his eyes closed, as if it's sort of spiritual. I'm going, No, I'm such a dickhead. So I bought this now we go and got three days later, and I'll give it a go. That's very hot, trying to yes in July,
Alex Brooks 39:22
humid, hot, yeah, humid, sweaty.
Andrew Daddo 39:24
So I've got the oil, and I put in a bit of cream, whatever, and I put it on, and then I've done too much, so I've sort of put it on my head, and, you know, like, so basically, I've, you know, sandalwood oiled myself
Alex Brooks 39:35
to death. You've sandalwooded The daddy, yeah, and then
Andrew Daddo 39:39
it's so hot to start sweating, and it's just dripped into my eyes, and I can't see. I literally can't see for like, 45 minutes. And Jack's sitting there going, look at that. I'm going, I can't see. So I got my bottle of water. I'm putting it into the water, into the top and just rinsing your eyebrow. See, yeah, see, for two minutes and dripping like. This is hilarious.
Alex Brooks 40:01
So, so your Sandalwood didn't kill your
Andrew Daddo 40:03
middle age, but it's interesting. It was interesting to me a little bit that I haven't done anything, but I went, Oh, I'm away on holiday, so I might have a try it. I might give sandalwood. Give that a go. Give it a go. It's never come out again. It's quite funny. It was funny.
Alex Brooks 40:17
Now, what about do you still surf? Yeah, ah, sometimes, but not as much as you used to. No, why is that? Ah, because it's see some middle aged men love surfing more than ever as they get older, yeah, I'm probably more inclined to not be that person. Golf. Golf, yep, clearly.
Andrew Daddo 40:36
And also a skip, right? What? Skip? Jump rope.
Alex Brooks 40:41
Oh, you jump rope. Yeah. Do you? Yeah? Do you sing songs
Andrew Daddo 40:44
like, No, I used to what's it called? What's it called when you go on a flight and you don't, oh, you got deep. So your raw Dogger? Is it raw dogging? So raw dogging is where you go on a flight, you don't listen to anything, watch anything, read anything, you just sit there and you raw dog it. So I used to raw dog at skipping, right? Just skip. And then I've got some headphones, so listen to music. And so, yeah, just do the skipping. Yeah. So, so skip, and then I'll have a swim. And then when I so swimming, and before they used to, you know, do ocean swimming. So still do that.
Alex Brooks 41:15
Have you ever been stung by a blue bottle? Yeah? Jesus. I know. That's why I can't do ocean swimming. It's too scary.
Andrew Daddo 41:22
Only happens well on the where on the northern well in Sydney, happens. Yeah, blue ball was in Sydney, nor'easter, right? So if it's not an or Easter, you've got no problem.
Alex Brooks 41:31
Oh, I didn't know that. I'm learning new things every day. Tell me that Andrew daddo,
Andrew Daddo 41:36
nor East Wind, check the check the high tide line project, or check the levels, check the water line where it's coming to right now. And if there's blue bottles there, there's blue bottles out there, there's no blue bottles on the current wash line. No problems get out. I didn't know that. Yeah, so this is a really long way to answer your surfing question. God, I'm boring myself. So I get my water into looking at his phone. I get my water he's looking at Blue bottles.
Alex Brooks 42:08
MTV. What's MTV? Yeah,
Andrew Daddo 42:12
I get my my water in when I swim. Okay, so I feel like I get my water fix.
Alex Brooks 42:19
Okay, so, so you don't need to surf, is what
Andrew Daddo 42:21
you say, yeah. And actually not very good at it.
Alex Brooks 42:25
That's quite a big admission for a man to make, not really. Well, it's very obvious when you're surfing right, whether you're good at it because you're not, either do it or you're either Kelly Slater or you're not, right?
Andrew Daddo 42:36
No, no, no, that'd be a reason not to do anything. You never do it. No one to do anything. I can surf for 30 minutes. For 30 minutes when I start really cooking it. Then I go, get out. Just retired. Get out and
Alex Brooks 42:47
what about like, like, That man just got attacked by a shark on the northern beaches. Like, shocking. That never happened when we were kids, we were busy killing all the sharks with evolution and environmental vandalism.
Andrew Daddo 43:00
Yeah, I don't think that's the Yeah. I mean, okay, they're always there and, but they are literally always there.
Alex Brooks 43:08
But great whites in Sydney, that's, that's that it was a great white shark, yeah, don't know that's an Adelaide thing. Great Whites, we love on a Great White Yeah.
Andrew Daddo 43:19
Like I said, it said only
Alex Brooks 43:21
mocking them. The only, the
Andrew Daddo 43:24
fact that it's a freak accident is the only. There's no good part, but that's the only part that makes it tolerable, because it's not yet he didn't do anything. No one did literally couldn't have avoided. No one did anything wrong. No, that's right. So, and that's possibly a nice, yeah, but it's possibly, if there's a, if there is a nice aspect, or something that palatable, nice is wrong, a palatable aspect, that might be it
Alex Brooks 43:52
okay. He was a surfer, Yeah, apparently, and unlucky, yeah. Now what about getting to middle age? So you do skipping, that's That's hardcore, by the way, skipping. I tried that a couple of times. Great. I couldn't, well, keep it going.
Andrew Daddo 44:06
I was working with Subaru, and we were doing a lap around Australia. I've got a
Alex Brooks 44:10
Subaru. Yeah, everyone thinks I'm a lesbian because I have a Subaru. What's, what's that?
Andrew Daddo 44:14
How that's, that's an American marketing thing. Oh, is it? But the thing is, that very capable cars, and that's, and that's what's that's
Alex Brooks 44:23
what it's about. I love my Subaru so much because I don't have to slow down when I go over speed humps. My God, it's true. It's true. I love it because my husband, he he likes a sports car. It's I'm not allowed to drive his car because I don't know how to do speed bumps. Okay? Because I'm used to my Subaru. Yeah, I love most
Andrew Daddo 44:41
interesting. I can pass that on to give them some time. They'll care. They'll care. Check the shockers.
Alex Brooks 44:48
I love of my Subaru. I've had Subarus for decades. I love them. I'm not branching out, because when you find what you like, yeah, they're good. They are very good. I don't I'm not really into cars or really golf or. Skipper, well,
Andrew Daddo 45:00
see, that's another 90s thing, you know, like that I miss is the old cars, yeah, okay. And the fact that you could, like, you know, on a whatever, a 67 hold,
Alex Brooks 45:10
and they were very cool in the 90s, to have a retro hole
Andrew Daddo 45:15
and and that, with that thing of that, that gay, abandoned thing, like, you could drive, and you drive really hard. You drive in 110 100 and whatever, right, and starts sort of shake and shutter a bit like this. This is an old car,
Alex Brooks 45:27
and you have to have the windows open because there was no air Connie smoking
Andrew Daddo 45:32
inside as well. Yeah, the quarter panel window shocking. Anyway, those quarters, you'd have anything like this, and it start running rough, and you just pull over and fill it with oil and just hammer it again. Now, I've still got a 66 Holden. Still got an HR. Yeah, baby, it around, and that's what I miss about the old days. Is that shammy? No, you can microfiber. Oh yeah,
Alex Brooks 45:56
I say you're giving me all the workshop tips. That's, that's the next YouTube channel.
Andrew Daddo 46:02
Actually do it with a bloody window cleaner. Oh, they did the excess water. They use it literally as window scraper, or with a rubber thing on it.
Alex Brooks 46:11
See, I don't know any, I don't do any of that stuff. Yeah, What I
Andrew Daddo 46:15
miss is that, that sense of so now I'm so careful with the car, but I miss it is that just because it's old. Yeah, it is, but it was also old. Then it was still 3020, years old. I missed that sense of just, just enjoy the crap out of it. And if it blows up, it blows up, or is now it's like, it's too precious, it's a bit precious. And I think as you get older, that's one of those things that
Alex Brooks 46:38
you start realizing things are
Andrew Daddo 46:39
precious and they have value, or they have intrinsic value, and you don't want to lose them. I think that's how you end up becoming a hoarder and stuff like that. Because no like stuff, though, no,
Alex Brooks 46:52
you like what stuff? Just stuff, just like, Well, Nick That's right, knick knack. No, what like? What kind of knickknacks?
Andrew Daddo 46:58
I like reminders of great times. I like holiday, sort of dumb holiday purchases, like what we bought a what's your favorite? Can't even I don't have any, I don't have a particular but the newest one, yeah, we got in Sri Lanka. We went up to sandalwood. We got oh yeah, go with this bloke. We hadn't seen it anyway. It was an it's an elephant. It's got a bell hanging off its look. It just sounds crap, but it's not crap. It's beautiful. Love it. You love this elephant's head with a with a bell, a bell hanging off its trunk, thing and, okay, you know? And it's actually beautiful, and it's fun and it's quirky, and it sort of
Alex Brooks 47:43
fits us. And do you summon the kids to dinner? It's actually the
Andrew Daddo 47:47
front, front door. And you, you know,
Alex Brooks 47:49
knocking, knock on the door and say, just walk past our ding.
Andrew Daddo 47:53
It's got a beautiful note to it. Oh, really, yeah. But anyway, we hang with the bike. And he goes, No,
Alex Brooks 47:58
no, no. He wanted the elephant as well. No, he
Andrew Daddo 48:01
wanted the money. Yeah, he wanted more than we're prepared to pay. And then we left, and then we're driving off. And we went, all right, did we miss something? Then? Was that? Was that the thing? Was that the one, the spot? Oh, look at you. Was that your precious thing? Was that the thing, you know? So we left, and then Jack goes, you know, we're probably gonna go past there again. But while we're on our next five days or six days. Let's see if we can find, find one again, nothing like nothing. Everywhere we went with the bell, and so we went back, went got it paid more than our first haggle. Your wife's pretty hard at haggling. She's pretty good. Okay, that's good. And so that's your favorite. Sometimes I've got to say to her, it's a buck, you know, like it's a dot. She goes to the point, let's walk off. Let's walk off. You're not walking off. This is not working. You say, How long have we been doing this for? No, that's her talking to me. Oh, oh, so
Alex Brooks 48:54
And okay, so holidays, because it traveling a bit of a thing for you, right? Yeah, it's been a job. Yeah, it's not bad. Hey, you've had a pretty good gig most of your life. Yeah, where's your where's the best place? Where do you still need to go? What's been the best and where do you still need to go?
Andrew Daddo 49:12
Oh, I find India really intriguing. Yeah, okay, because the Indian people are just so good. Yeah, they're lovely. They're so, I mean, the Sri Lankan people were so good. Nothing was a problem. Yeah? Like, it's, it's no problem. It was literally no problem. No, that's no problem. But look, we're only, I know, two nights. We're only gonna say one night. Yeah, no problem. Can we help you get to your next place? Oh, you know, like, yeah, India is still exotic, genuinely exotic. It's crazy, right? There's a lot of money there now. So, yeah, the last time we were there was there was bloody, I must have been 20 Ferraris and Lambos and things flying towards us on the wrong side of the road, just going, what? Oh, yeah. The traffic's horrendous.
Alex Brooks 49:55
Maybe they need the HR Holden. Maybe they need a bit of RBT. I. But actually they should do that magic. RBT, Mumbai, imagine what that'd be like.
Andrew Daddo 50:04
I don't know. I don't reckon they'd get that many people boring show. You're not really
Alex Brooks 50:08
supposed to if you're, if you're a good Hindu, you don't drink out no so or eat meat, yeah. So anyway, so where do you still want to go? We're still on a bucket list. If you have one.
Andrew Daddo 50:24
I actually don't know. I've never been to Spain, never been to South America. Yeah, I've never been to, never been to Cuba. Would be interesting.
Alex Brooks 50:32
Probably they've got good cars there. Yeah? They're like, old cars, yeah, I think that could be your Cuba spot.
Andrew Daddo 50:38
Yeah, that's too close to America. I reckon it's a bit scary. What's going Yeah, America is it's for horrifying, I know, like, for lots and lots and lots of reasons. Did time in America? So that's done. Box tick, rode a motorbike across America. Did you? Yeah? So with your wife? No, with my mate. Ray. Yeah, just
Alex Brooks 50:56
right. Is Ray still on the scene? Is Ray? Have you done another moment with Ray?
Andrew Daddo 51:02
No, oh, you know, when you ask a question, you go far out, you go look back and wish I hadn't he died. Oh, right, so he's part of a workplace accident. Oh, poor Ray, which was terrible, and it left behind a two year old daughter. Oh, that's even worse. I know it's terrible. That's awful. So all right, poor daughter just went out writing the story of the ride, because he used to say, it's all good before it was a saying, oh, so anyway, I called the book, it's all good, but I was writing her a letter just just to tell her stories about what we did, because, like, I'm the only one who knew, yeah, and his wife didn't know. And so he had the photos. I had photos, so I wrote the story, and then the publisher said, what are you working on? I said, I'm just writing this girl a letter about this road trip we did. And he said, let's make it a book. So I was lucky enough to do that. That's so and this is something else. Just on storytelling, then why it's important to share stories, right? So you sit there. I'm just boring my grandchildren rigid, you know, Jesus
Alex Brooks 51:58
Christ of VJ, stop.
Andrew Daddo 52:01
But she said, so he he asked me something deep. He asked me about my brother's accident, my twin brother's accident, and I because I'd never talked about it, and I said, Look, I didn't know him very well. So you know, yeah, so you know, sometimes you'll tell someone you don't know that well. You'll tell them, because you know that it's still really of no real consequence. So I started telling him the story anyway, he starts snoring, right? He's fallen asleep. So we're on motorbikes. I don't know if anyone done
Alex Brooks 52:30
anyone He's snoring while he's riding a motorbike.
Andrew Daddo 52:33
No, he's on his own bike. We're in a tent at night time, and he goes so he's falling
Alex Brooks 52:38
asleep. Fell asleep because your story was a bit
Andrew Daddo 52:42
exhausted, right? With and anyway, so then, yeah, it was boring.
Alex Brooks 52:46
But why don't you know? Because it's an important story, right? You're twin, yeah.
Andrew Daddo 52:50
So, and then he's, I nudged him off on mate, and he's, he goes, sorry, yeah. And he fell asleep again, and whatever. So when I sent and that, saw all that stuff's in this book. So when I sent the book to his daughter, wife, daughter, I thought it was probably
Alex Brooks 53:06
three, oh, yeah, I couldn't read it.
Andrew Daddo 53:09
When I said three, his wife, she was really excited. And then she sent me a thing and said, I'm so upset that you would include that you make him sound like an uncaring
Alex Brooks 53:20
person. The littlest things. Set people, yeah, and
Andrew Daddo 53:23
then, and I went, I was devastated. And then oh, like, and I apologize that, obviously it's bit late.
Alex Brooks 53:30
I can't say when you send the manuscript. Yeah, no,
Andrew Daddo 53:34
I sent her the book. I didn't even send the manuscript because I didn't actually, I didn't want anyone. It's my story for them anyway. Then she goes, emails me. Two days later, she goes, I'm so glad you actually put it in, because I forgot he fell asleep all the time. Oh, really. And I made that was just his Quirk. He's just one of these things about him as a person, so that just go to sleep, so that that's the thing of those
Alex Brooks 53:59
papers, the point I wish I could do that. It can No, no,
Andrew Daddo 54:04
but that's the point of sharing stories, is that it's what might be a small thing to you could be a big thing to someone else, so you might as well share the story.
Alex Brooks 54:12
And Hu humans are designed to connect with other humans, right? Even if we piss each other off, or, yeah, someone finds it funny, or someone else doesn't. That's the whole point. That's, that's what I believe. Okay, that's a nice story. And I'm, I'm very sorry that Ray died, yeah, so am I, that's pretty crummy, poor Ray. And you, I mean, you did have that terrible, terrible family tragedy with your brother, yeah, terrible. I mean, it was, I believe, a grand final night. He had a terrible accident, and he nearly died, right?
Andrew Daddo 54:42
Well, yeah, he was in a coma third, so he's a pedestrian hit by a car. Terrible. He Yeah, he was, I think he's in a coma five months, and your
Alex Brooks 54:51
parents must have been so worried,
Andrew Daddo 54:53
see, it's just,
Alex Brooks 54:54
and you would have been twin. What was it like as a twin? Oh, well, I
Andrew Daddo 54:57
mean, it's just, you know, I don't know. Like it's, you
Alex Brooks 55:01
don't know how not to be a twin, because you are a twin, right? Yeah, that's right. Did your other brothers experience it differently to you? I think we,
Andrew Daddo 55:08
everyone experienced their own sort of level of grief. And what happened? I think cam was away at the time, so he's in Japan, so he was, you know, so you then you don't even know what all your brothers and these you have no sense of what it is. But the thing is, you know, there's people, you know, some people in family. Thanks saying it would be, gee, we might just be better if he died. No, which is fine, no, that's a hard No, no. It's actually not, because it's such a catastrophic industry injury. You go, well is, would that be better? Because you have no idea what's the other side of it. And then there's others going live at all costs. So tough one. So it's, you know, so it's really interesting. What? So you never know what. This is, the thing when you walk down the street, you never know what anyone's going through. Ever you know exactly you're having, that you're having, literally the day of your life. Oh my, yes, there are three numbers in.
Alex Brooks 56:06
You're the drummer getting dripped out, whichever way,
Andrew Daddo 56:09
whatever it is, and literally walking by is someone who's just found something else so terrible. So it's really so community is fascinating and a family community is the same,
Alex Brooks 56:23
and your brother is so interesting, because I think you you 20s, you're the little creative ones, you're the You're the writer, and he's an amazing artist,
Andrew Daddo 56:31
right? So we had dinner on he went to Canberra on Monday, so we drove down at dinner with him and his wife on
Alex Brooks 56:38
look at your sibling question, yeah, the the daddo, bunch. Yeah. See you still. The dad is around everywhere. Let's So, let's, let's talk about money and what your parents taught you about money, because your dad was working hard, your mum was at home with all five of you, including twin boys. I don't know how she did it. Tell her my hat goes off to her. Yeah. Did her? Did her standards drop with each child? That's kind of my question, because how do you
Andrew Daddo 57:02
do does everyone's standards drop
Alex Brooks 57:03
with each child? I think so. Well, no one should be the first child.
Andrew Daddo 57:07
Okay, let's change the language there. Okay, importantly, yes, your it's your standards don't drop. You become more comfortable. You're more resilient. Yeah, and, and you become more resilient, but you also become more comfortable with things that with with McCain, we're getting see, yeah, days ago. But you know, when something they fall over, the first one falls over, you go, Oh my god, this is the end of the world hospital. The third one falls over, and you go, yeah, just push yourself up
Alex Brooks 57:38
when you're ready, when you're ready. But your parents, like your parents, teach you a lot of things as you grow up. But what did your parents teach you about money? Money?
Andrew Daddo 57:50
Dad, to respect money. Yeah, I think was important. Like, you know, we we got things, but we didn't get everything that we wanted, I think. And like dad, you know, as sort of got older and was working, he'd say, you know, you're young, you should gear up, you know, because you know you're doing all right, and so it's okay to have but because of work in this business, and you never, you really never know when your next job is. So I'm a hard saver, you know, like a little, yeah,
Alex Brooks 58:21
squirrel. So annoying, so annoying. Yeah, it is.
Andrew Daddo 58:27
It's so I'm scabbing for golf balls. So when I play with Pro V ones, because they're $9 and if I stand there with water in front of me, I'm going, I'm not actually, it's actually not enjoyable. So So as this, yeah? So dad always said, you know, and if I hadn't done what he said, it probably would have been better, because houses were significantly cheaper.
Alex Brooks 58:50
So he was encouraging you to buy a house young, yeah.
Andrew Daddo 58:53
So, yeah. But also, but also to stretch yourself, because you got a long time to you got time to make it up, yeah, but what? What I didn't understand, what he didn't what we didn't understand about each other was that he had a job that he could depend on. That's right, whereas we thought he lost his job when we're in America, and so he came home, he's unemployed at the age of 40. That's that would have been shocking, yeah, that would have been up again, yeah. And then that sort of went well, and then that ended, and he's got to start again. So he's, so that's
Alex Brooks 59:24
how it is now, yeah, yeah. But he's, when did he retire? How old was he when he retired?
Andrew Daddo 59:29
He his last job probably finished three years ago. Oh, wow, yeah. So he, he was the, he was the sort of the business brains around the reorganized, the rebuilding of a golf club in Melbourne called Lonestar links.
Alex Brooks 59:43
Look, you really are golf obsessed. You
Andrew Daddo 59:45
dad. It's funny that he ended up in that business. He did another one moon links, where he sort of he business built that we know. So he business built that one like sold they sold land and sold houses, and he loved. Yeah, and he'd love to be and this, it's so crazy, he should still be doing something, because he's incredibly intelligent and and has a knowledge that that they still he talks to him, they give some advice. And so
Alex Brooks 1:00:13
what do you plan to do when you retire? I'll keep writing. Yeah, okay.
Andrew Daddo 1:00:17
Because, I mean, I'm genuinely, you know, like, I'll just, I just, I just, you'll
Alex Brooks 1:00:22
just keep going to your job. What is skipping in your HR? Holden, I want to know if you're going to get that 80s jacket back, you know, the little Buffy Michael Hutchins jacket. You know,
Andrew Daddo 1:00:32
it was tartan on the inside. Oh, that would have been pretty starting wooly sort of,
Alex Brooks 1:00:37
yeah. That were very expensive back in the 80s.
Andrew Daddo 1:00:40
No, no, did you get it from an Oh, okay, so, yeah. So we were op shoppers, and they call it thrifting. Now that's what my kids call it. This is so expensive the OP shops for what you're
Alex Brooks 1:00:53
thrifting. Yeah, yeah. It's all like 80 bucks for a jacket and now superannuation, right? Because we sort of came of age in the 90s when Australia made superannuation a thing, right? Yeah, but it was so little money when we earned so little money back then, but now people have got to pay 12% Yeah, super, yeah. Have you got, have you got your super sorted like, do you think about stuff like that? Oh, yeah, mate.
Andrew Daddo 1:01:21
So an idiot because I, because I genuinely understand that if I want to have a decent life into my older age, I need to prepare for it now. Yeah, because, like, literally,
Alex Brooks 1:01:36
well, your parents are going, Yeah, hard and strong in their 80s, right?
Andrew Daddo 1:01:40
And pop, my grandfather died at 102 Oh, my goodness. Dad's dad died at 90 something, so you got longevity genes? Yeah, mum and dad, all their siblings are still alive. They're from 91 down to, wow, 70. That's so, like, it's all on, yeah? So, like, so it's
Alex Brooks 1:01:56
on, like, Donkey Kong, yeah. So you're gonna be gone for a while.
Andrew Daddo 1:01:58
Gotta prepare. Well, theoretically, right? So, you got to prepare. You got to be, you know, you got to be prepared. And I'm not convinced that the the welfare system is going to be as good,
Alex Brooks 1:02:10
as robust as you'd like it. Yeah. So, so yeah, you're sorting yourself,
Andrew Daddo 1:02:15
yeah. So we pay, we make our contributions as self employed person, yeah, as you know, as well as we can. We sort of max that to the to our ability. At the time, Floyd as well. Now she works at a local primary school. She's an angel. Oh, she is. So she does her super and we've got a, we have a self managed super fund that we that we do get help with. And, you know, say, so, yeah, I genuinely think it's such old news to actually prepare
Alex Brooks 1:02:45
as well disengage with it because they find it overwhelming. Yeah, of course, it's bad and it is
Andrew Daddo 1:02:52
hard, yeah, but so for our kids, you know, they have, I mean, my son, who is an aeronautical engineer, right? Wow. So who knows? His father must have been a genius.
Alex Brooks 1:03:05
Couldn't have been an AJ or anything like that.
Andrew Daddo 1:03:07
So he, yeah, he reads finance books and things and you know. So they're much better, more savvy, more Yeah, I think,
Alex Brooks 1:03:19
yeah. I think they are more savvy, whereas we just sort of go, oh, what will that all mean? And how do you even know how much money you're going to need when you're in your 80s? Like, yeah,
Andrew Daddo 1:03:29
it is hard, and the challenge is to spend it.
Alex Brooks 1:03:33
Yeah, that's right, because you don't want to save it. You don't want to eat beans on toast if you've got money for steak, right? Yeah, because you want to enjoy every night at the dinner table, even if the TV is off and the phones are out of the room.
Andrew Daddo 1:03:43
Now, you shouldn't say it that way. It should be, I hate to correct you. Enjoy dinner at the table with the TV off and the phones in the you know, let's see. Say, look at you. Look at we have to actually say, I, please excuse me. I'm gonna just check something on my phone, and then you might have to then the other thing is, like, if you're not trying to remember anything, you're not using your brain.
Alex Brooks 1:04:08
Yeah, absolutely true. Now, the other thing that I spoke to Jane Kitson about here in these very chairs was she does this thing. She talks about the all goes to shit. Kit you got to have a will, an advanced care directive, you got to have the whole power of attorney set up. You've got to leave all your logins for stuff so that people can take down your Facebook profile if anything happens to you. Have you done any of that stuff? Oh, no, I didn't think so.
Andrew Daddo 1:04:38
That sounds like work. It
Alex Brooks 1:04:39
does sound like
Andrew Daddo 1:04:40
work, doesn't it? Yeah, no, we've got a will. We did a will a little while ago, okay, and the rest of it, yeah,
Alex Brooks 1:04:45
you just start thinking about, well,
Andrew Daddo 1:04:49
you know, well, I mean, like they're sleeping, the hell. Well, that's, that's the other thing is, like, you know that the health, the health aspect, yeah, is, I. I'm guessing there are signs that it's coming. Yeah, right. So you can anything
Alex Brooks 1:05:04
hurt for you yet, like mine, my knees hurt. You know, does your back hurt? Touch wood?
Andrew Daddo 1:05:11
No, not at this time. I know. I've got a thought, some thighs, something, whatever. No, no. I don't know how she done. I think I remember once. So back to that bloody when i The on my celebrity show. So you spend all this time, you know, sitting in the jungle, sitting in the jungle like cross, yeah, you know, on a thing anyway. So spend all my time sitting like this, you know, very bad for your deep vein thrombosis. And, well, I got end up getting slapped foot. You know what slap foot is, right?
Alex Brooks 1:05:43
So friend had that,
Andrew Daddo 1:05:45
and I'm walking down there. We're walking down the hill because and it just stops working, slapping down here like this. And my wife goes, Jack goes, can you stop doing that? I went, I can't. Actually just keep Sorry, just slapping like this. So anyone see this guy? He's an old guru. And he goes, Do you feel that? You feel that you feel like it really likes about 1000 years I feel that. Did he put sandalwood? And then, no, because he wasn't a guru. And he, anyway, they put bloody stuff in your veins and whatever, really, to try and find out where the thing is. Andrew, what do I do? And he goes, come and see me in two months. So went, bang. He goes, how's it going? I said it's gone away. And he goes, knew it would. But, I mean, you know, so there's that
Alex Brooks 1:06:33
whole Yes, my my girlfriend, got that after she gave birth. Wow, could not walk after she gave birth because she got that slap foot. Yep. Not good
Andrew Daddo 1:06:40
trip over, a bit, yeah. Did you fall or did you have a did you fall over? Did you ever fall? Actually, I think I fell over. Actually, on TV. No, no, that's the thing, you know. You say that all right, with mom and dad, you know, like dad's walking down the thing, he's walking this way, and he decided he's going to turn that way, but he forgot to tell his feet that he was going to turn that way. And just, and I said, Did you fall over? He goes, fell over. You didn't have a fall. And he goes, No, I didn't have a fall.
Alex Brooks 1:07:05
But, you know, falls are actually deadly. When you're on a certain age, like, a certain percentage of people actually die within six months of a fall. Yeah? Like, it's quite alarming, yeah. You don't want to look at that too
Andrew Daddo 1:07:15
much, no. But to answer that whole thing, I think, I think there'll be, I hope that there'll be small signs saying something's going on, so you can actually prepare for that health well.
Alex Brooks 1:07:25
So we talked about last the last podcast I did down in Melbourne, your old city, we talked about, you've got to plan your years, because when you first retire, it's the GO, GO years, because you gonna have all this freedom and joy and you can travel and do all the things that you haven't done. But then after a certain age, and for everyone that's different, you do the go slow years, so you probably don't want to travel as much, but you do other things that you enjoy. Yeah? Bridge, yeah. Bridge, uh, maybe, yeah. Maybe pottery. I think your mum did a bit of
Andrew Daddo 1:07:54
pottery. Yeah, I'll do pottery. I'd paint as well, I reckon. Oh, they look at you. Quite keen to paint
Alex Brooks 1:07:58
again. Muscle on in on your brother's stuff. Can you No, would he be quite proprietorial about because
Andrew Daddo 1:08:03
you think so? Well, I used to paint. We both used to paint when we were younger. Look at you. And then he went, I painted. He goes in shit. I go, Yeah, I know, but it's my shit.
Alex Brooks 1:08:13
And when you're twin, you got to find your own thing, yeah, all right, I'm gonna go into my It's called My rapid fire questions, where I just fire two choices at you and you just choose one. Okay, okay, because we're gonna rap soon, dogs or cats, dogs, surf or golf, golf, read book or read social media or book. I knew you'd say that I've quit
Andrew Daddo 1:08:35
Instagram. Oh, have you? Yeah, did
Alex Brooks 1:08:37
you have to detox? Like it was giving me the shits,
Andrew Daddo 1:08:40
like, why is that? Because I'm so tired of everyone. Look at this, and it's like, good on you. I think so. I've still got the, I still got the account I have to have for some, for some business purposes. Oh yes, but I don't, definitely not on my phone.
Alex Brooks 1:08:59
Oh, interesting. Yeah. Okay, I'm happier for it. Okay, that's good to know.
Andrew Daddo 1:09:03
What about the toilet is takes less time. You don't get stuck there going what
Alex Brooks 1:09:09
I don't want to think about that. Okay? Luxury holidays or camping.
Andrew Daddo 1:09:14
Luxury holidays, yeah, oh yeah, because Jackie hates camping.
Alex Brooks 1:09:20
Yeah? Smart, smart woman, take away or fine dining, oh,
Andrew Daddo 1:09:25
takeaway,
Alex Brooks 1:09:27
early bird or night owl.
Andrew Daddo 1:09:28
Oh, such a good question, both.
Alex Brooks 1:09:31
He can't do both. Not when you get older. These questions
Andrew Daddo 1:09:35
when I'm older, no, these are just sometimes it's great going about eight o'clock,
Alex Brooks 1:09:40
yeah, yeah, okay, Tim Tams or mint slice.
Andrew Daddo 1:09:44
Oh, what's a mint slice? Is that the they're the two chocolate ones, yeah, they're both chocolate biscuits.
Alex Brooks 1:09:49
Tim Tam Yeah, totally. Uh, summer or winter, summer, okay? That's why you live in Sydney, not Melbourne, right? Barefoot, or shoes, barefoot. Yeah, Speedos, or boarding Speedos.
Andrew Daddo 1:10:03
I just got some for Father's Day. They've got bloody disgusting
Andrew Daddo 1:10:12
looks like someone spewed on the fabric. It's, no, no, it's, it's pictures of, like, the hot sauce or something. I don't know what it is. It's quite funny from the kids.
Alex Brooks 1:10:21
Oh, the nice kids. Okay, wine or beer?
Andrew Daddo 1:10:24
Was tough. I think beer. Okay.
Alex Brooks 1:10:27
Are you a craft beer guy? No, just checking. No. Holding or forward. Holden, I thought
Andrew Daddo 1:10:35
glue bit of board, put it together. You gotta forward, you know, let's get fair
Speaker 1 1:10:39
income. Even know that. Say, look
Alex Brooks 1:10:43
at the things you've taught me about Australia tonight. RBT, I need to watch more of it. I need to see if it sneaks in. Thank you, Mr. Daddo it's been a pleasure.
Andrew Daddo 1:10:52
I've really enjoyed it.