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Alex Brooks 0:00
Okay, I'm Alex Brooks here for the midlife shift, and today we'retalking friendship, funny people and finances with Julia Morris and Kate Long-brook. Oh,
Kate Langbroek 0:14
Oh Alex, you fumbled the ball. Lang-brook
Alex
I know. Dutch. Yeah, Dutch. Tricky. Very tricky.
Kate
So don't believe what you see on the paper
Julia
Clogs!
Kate
They are people that carve shoes out of wood. They're not to betrusted.
Alex Brooks 0:30
I know I always know to check the pronunciation, but I just didn't doit.
Julia Morris 0:36
I don't even know what day it is. Let's face it, if we're talking abouthurtling through to your midlife which, quite frankly,
Kate Langbroek 0:46
That's not true. I don’t think it’s been a hurtle or either way for me.Sometimes I've had some days that havefelt like an hour's felt like an eternity.
Alex
Well, you do have four children, don't you?
Kate
Yes, I do, that's why
Julia Morris 0:58
But they're kind of self-saucing by now,
Kate Langbroek 1:00
Right? The littlest one, notquite, but otherwise. He’s 15 just we gotta keep an eye on him, because he's agrifter and an urchin, a charming but wild one.
Alex
And so how many? What have you got - what brands have you got?
Kate:
I've got a boy, eldest son, 21 daughter, 19, son, 18 and son 15.
Alex:
That's a lot of children.
Kate
It is. I was not thought through well because we had three lots of year12 in a row.
JULIA:
I’m feeling triggered
Kate
Yeah, correct. And no, I know. But then the last one was the easiest. Artie.
Alex Brooks 1:41
You haven't got the next one through yet. You've got your
Kate
No no, but we've got a breather.
Julia Morris 1:45
Okay, listen, never turn your back on. Ungradable. Yeah, take it.
Alex Brooks 1:52
Wait a minute. How many? How many offspring do you have? You have two.
Julia Morris 1:55
I have two ladies, two ladies, 16 and 18.
Alex
Oh, so you've done year 12?
Kate Langbroek
Done year 12-
Alex Brooks
And you got another round of year 12 to go?
Kate Langbroek
Got another round of year 12 so
Kate Langbroek 2:04
And also we could do some matchmaking Julia.
Julia Morris 2:07
It's never off the table.
Alex Brooks 2:11
Now, tell me how you two are friends in real life. Tell me how thishappened. We've been friends from early doors.
Julia Morris 2:17
I was trying to think that.
Kate Langbroek 2:18
And you know what? I remembered this strange thing that must havespoken to the Queenslander in me and the country New South Wales girl in you.
Julia
You did say country
Kate
We crossed paths, something when you were living in Sydney years ago,and the girls were little, yeah, really little.
Julia
Were you in town? And then came over to the house?
Kate
You had said to me come over for a cup of tea, whichis usually such an insincere invitation normally, or we must catch up. And I did.
Julia
I loved it.
Kate
I was about to fly back toMelbourne,
Julia Morris 2:54
and I'd been in Los Angeles for two years. We were home staying at afriend's like crazy, beautiful apartment, beautiful apartment. We couldn't evenafford to, like, drink the water out of the taps. It was so beautiful. And
Kate Langbroek 3:05
I remember I was at the pub, you know, one of those Sydney pubs.They've got all those brown brick pubs everywhere and whatever, gorgeous.
Alex
Yeah with the tiles
Kate
And then I somehow realized I was next to your apartment, or just downthe road, and I called you, and you said, Come up. I think you were you stillin bed, or I woke you up, or there was something, you know, I woke someone up,do you know,
Julia Morris 3:25
as well? I guess over the years, we all see people on the televisionwhere you're like, I think I and it happens a lot, where people will say to me,I think we could be best friends. And I think that that happens with us inmedia, too, doesn't it? Where you see somebody the way they speak, the way theyspeak, you know, their truth, their, they get on with things. They don't feellike they're full of, you know, poo, poo. So
Kate Langbroek 3:44
and also, I think that's so true, and an extension ofthat is also when you watch the journey that this potential friend has and therelationship with their audience and with the other media. It's reallyinteresting, and I've always been described as polarizing, which
Alex
It is just rude, but
Kate
Whatever, that's fine. That's fine because I know I'm not particularlyretail in that sense. And Julia's been kind of similar in a way, absolutely
Julia Morris 4:16
You are better to be, I think, maybe it's just a convenience that I'vetold myself, in polarizing land. You are better to have people feeling stronglyabout you one way or the other. So if people dislike you, then fine, they'retalking about you. If they'd love if they love you, they'll come with you toevery single project.
Kate Langbroek 4:35
So brilliant, because this is one of my favorite, one of my favoritestories, and I can't remember who it was. There was like some NASCAR racer orwhatever, who, for some reason, always got booed by the crowd. And his son, whowas a fledgling NASCAR racer, would get really upset to it, upset by it. Andhis dad said to him, ‘Son, if 50% of the crowd are with you and 50% of thecrowd are against you. You got 100% of the crowd’
Alex Brooks 5:02
See, wise.
Julia Morris 5:09
And also, the reason, I think we're probably sopolarizing and in similar ways and in slightly different ways, is that we weare authentically saying what we believe to be the truth. There's no, we're notdrinking the Kool Aid. We're not like, you know, I think if I do this, andthat'll be fun for women, there's no plan about it. There's kind of like I feltout of my space for so many years. I'm now, as I hit hurtle towards that, thatmidsection, or as I say, if I've already passed it, whatever I blew through,the midsection, is that we kind of come into our own now, all of a sudden, it'scool to be that honest. It was never cool to bethat honest. Yeah.
Kate Langbroek 5:46
Now people say instead of polarizing. Now people say
Julia Morris 5:50
authentic. Now it's good to have crossed out. I prefer that
Kate Langbroek 5:53
too polarizing. Alex, yeah,
Alex
Do you?
Kate
I do. I do: polarizing? I heard it for so long, it really annoyed me.Yeah. And also, as the Dalai Lama says,
Julia
Oh what did he say?
Kate
The worst thing about criticism is that it's true. So when I hearpolarizing and it annoys me, I know that I am polarizing.
Julia Morris 6:12
Luckily, my ADHD brain goes, You know what that’s OK
Alex Brooks 6:19
All you can do. And so if you had a theme song for this phase of yourlife, this hurtling past midlife, yeah, you know, I watched you on New Faces,oh, when you were 17, it was just a beautiful little thing
Kate
Singing?
Julia Morris 6:34
Yeah, that's right
Alex
You were wearing a delicate pearl jumper.
Julia
Oh, that was my mother's friend, Margot’s jumper and Margot landedtowards because they were very wealthy. So they had a … it was a fancy jumper,and I got to do that on the television. It was very exciting, though, but Isnuck out of the HSC trials to go to the audition.
Kate Langbroek 6:53
Oh, already showing where your priorities lay
Julia Morris 6:57
Not scholastically gifted
Alex Brooks 7:00
But you did sing a song from Footloose,
Julia
Absolutely.
Alex
And the 80s was full of sort of themes, yeah, Hero songs that you cankind of
Julia
Holding out for a hero. Guess what? I found it
Kate Langbroek 7:14
Be your own hero,
Julia Morris 7:15
Guys. It's just really deep and that.
Alex Brooks 7:21
Okay, okay, moving right along. Now, the real reason we're talkingabout friendship is because, as you do get a little bit older,
Julia
Yes,
Alex
Having friends is as good for you as not smoking. Oh god, yeah. Like,you've got to have
Kate Langbroek 7:35
friends. My ideal combination is friends who smoke and you've got,you've got every base covered Alex. What a great time. But are they
Alex Brooks 7:44
allowed to smoke Alpine because when we were younger, they were available. Do you remember menthol cigarettes?
Kate Langbroek 7:49
All right, cigarettes. I remember at my school, it was St Moritz,menthol.
Julia Morris 7:57
What did the nuns say? Did you have nuns?
Kate Langbroek 7:58
No nuns. You were Catholic nuns
Julia Morris 8:02
I had nuns from morning noon till night. Don't worry. Thrown in forgood measure, good nuns. I had nuns. I good nuns, mostly who realized I was outof the box and didn't try and put me in it, except in grade one, where the nunmade a paper seat belt for me so I would stay in my seat.
Alex
Oh, really, sticky tape. Oh you really did have ADHD, like little boy,ADHD. Oh, absolutely, Oh, no. I've been diagnosed last year, so it's very
Alex Brooks 8:33
So it's very common. I've done a big story about this, yeah, afterwomen go through menopause, it's very common that the ADHD symptoms becomedifferent,
Kate Langbroek 8:44
Definitely, so many women,
Julia Morris 8:46
A lot of the other stuff slides away. If you're onHRT, it gives you back some sense of peace. And then I found, actually, I'veknown for, uh, that's not true. I haven't known for a long time. I just didlike everybody else has done and had a late diagnosis, and just thought, well,maybe I'm just a punish, maybe I'm just a lot. Maybe I'm just this, maybe I'mjust that, and now that I see that it's all the Absolute 12345, things of ADHD, yeah, I've just, you know, take alittle bit of the back seat on being harsh with yourself.
Kate Langbroek 9:18
What are the stats? Alex, because all Can I just say this? God, there'sa lot of talk about it.
Alex
Yes
Kate
There are tons, yeah, and I understand that part of it is therevelation. Definitely, suddenly aspects of yourself make sense. But also I'mlike, can we stop talking about it just for a bit?
Julia Morris 9:35
I think it's just a shock when you find out. So, you know, she I was 56years old, yeah
Kate
And no one had ever
Julia
No one had ever suggested it, no one had ever done anything about it.
Kate
But you had the paper seat belt
Julia
But they would not have been able to lead that back to being ADHD. Sowhat I'm hearing a lot at the moment, because I'm obviously talking a lot aboutit because I'm trying to make sense of it in my own mind
Kate
Everyone's talking a lot about it, everyone’s at the same …
Julia
Interestingly, I've had somebody say to me not long ago, um, doesn'teveryone have a bit of ADHD? Now, I understand my response to that is, if youthink everyone's got a bit of ADHD, you've got ADHD
Alex Brooks 10:10
Pretty much, pretty much. And it's the other the other reason, I thinkit's such a talking point, is that everyone thought it was a little boy'sdisease.
Julia
We were told 15 years ago that my little girls couldn’t have had it.
Alex
And the reason little girls were never diagnosed is their form ofattention disorder is different
Julia
It’s inside the head, it's not busy, and that's Yes, and
Alex
That's why the revelation happens as women get older and the brain fogof perimenopause comes … if you've had ADHD and you've been undiagnosed andhaven't learned how to manage it, it's such a change,
Kate Langbroek 10:45
Oh yeah, because I was wondering. I'm like, why is it everywhere all of
Julia Morris 10:49
As someone who has it, I think there's a goldfish vibe in that you getto the end of the tank and you're kind of like, oh, I didn't know how I gotthrough yesterday, right?
Kate
Yeah, right.
Julia
I didn't know that I was frozen to where I couldn't do anything until Iwas forced out of the bed to go and do the school pickup Tomorrow, I'm gonna do90 jobs. Yeah, and I could never make sense as to why that was and becausethere was no consistency in my thoughts …
Kate
So now that you've been diagnosed, and you've got the amphetamines.
Julia Morris 11:23
Yeah, it took me so long to get them
Kate Langbroek 11:27
How does the day look different?
Julia Morris 11:31
The day looks different in that okay, normally. Okay. First of all, ifI can, I'll wake at seven, yeah, try and get up and try and get up and have acoffee, and I don't know, start the house, yeah, to get because I'm also tryingto get two ADHD people out there.
Alex
Are they diagnosed?
Julia
Yes, absolutely
Alex
That's good.
Julia
So then, like, then if I have the cup of coffee …I cannot sit down?Don't sit down. If I sit down, I'm done until 25 past and I'm like, ‘Iseverybody ready?’
Kate Langbroek 11:59
That's like me. If I look at my phone, oh, if I look at my phone andget sucked into socials or news, then I'm just cooked.
Julia Morris 12:06
So depending on what the day's got for me, I will then take themedication.I'm on an eight hour roll out. So it's gonna I need it to last, say,on these sort of days. I need it to last through the middle of the day becauseI'm not working at night.
Alex
Okay?
Julia
So by having it by about eight o'clock or nineo'clock, I'm all of a sudden, I've put that load of washing on, I've already cleaned out that drawer, I've already done that thing. But not feeling manic or panic, or must have 50 jobs on the go atone
Kate
Yeah, right.
Julia
Just like, oh yeah, I need to get that done.
Kate
And something gets done tocompletion.
Julia
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's amazing.
Alex
What do you do in the jungle to time it?
Julia
In the jungle, I don't have the tablet until I'm up on the studio floor for the rehearsal and then the show.
Kate
And what time does that start?
Julia
So we're up on the studio floor by eight o'clock in the morning, and then we finish by 530 in the afternoon. But we start on site at 430
Alex
What, in the morning?
Julia
Yeah, so I have to mask my attention from 4.30 in the morning until when I have that tablet.
Kate
No one can do that.
Julia
I just have to, like, take a moment,
Alex
Do you meditate?
Julia
No, I don't meditate.
Kate
She medicates
Julia
Yeah, don’t meditate, medicate. Get the t-shirts.
Kate
That’s a great t-shirt, right there
Julia
Don't right? Let's have a biscuit, I’m sure it’s going to do the same job.
Alex Brooks 13:31
Okay, so we talked a little bit about polarizing and hurtling and soon. But how hard or easy is it to make people laugh in the age of polarization and cancellation? Oh,
Julia Morris 13:42
Oh don't care. Yeah,
Alex Brooks 13:44
That's ADHD, yeah.
Julia Morris 13:48
No, I think no, honestly, I kind of feel like the teenagers definitely keep me on the straight and narrow. If I've got the odd expression, that expression that doesn't mean things
Kate Langbroek 13:59
Teenagers are narcs, such narcs
Alex Brooks 14:03
They're terrible gas lighters. My son told me, when I asked what a what a furry was. Oh, he told me they're the same as pansexuals. This was when he was 14. Oh, they're not the same as pansexual
Julia Morris 14:15
Yeah
Kate Langbroek 14:16
But they can be both.
Alex
Well, you can be, yeah, you can be anything.
Julia Morris 14:20
You’re gonna get overheated. But no judgment. No, no judgment.
Alex
They gaslight you
Julia
Interestingly, lots of people want to, not want to talk with, with, you know, funny people at the moment about, how about these sort of cancellation vibes. But I figure within reason, the audience is going to tell you.
Alex
Yeah, that's true.
Julia
If you're racist, if you're a misogynist, if you are super judgey, if you're any of those things, they'll kind of shut you down, that this all
Kate Langbroek 14:51
I am all of those things and I’m here
Julia Morris 14:55
I am too. There's a kindness to you that's not a mean like, take someone down. There's, like, silly stuff.
Kate Langbroek 15:01
Yeah, also that humour, which is an increasingly rare currency, is also a great insulator.
Julia
Yes.
Kate
So I do think that people are quite protective to a certain extent of well-meaning people who who dwell in the comedy space, because we know thatit's, it's not a renewable resource, yeah,
Julia
Absolutely
Kate
It's really rare. And for someone who is not like Julia, you don't ever feel that she's like, serving a master that's over there. Whereas with somepeople, you do get the sense that their corporate overlord is whatever
Alex
OK yeah.
Kate
And so people are, I think, quite protective of and respectful of the space that you're working in.
Julia Morris 15:55
Oh and also, we are long standing members of an industry that is so notoriously disposable of women.
Alex
Yeah, that's right,
Julia
We're gonna be afforded a certain homage, just for the fact that we're still standing,
Alex Brooks 16:10
yeah, still turning up.
Kate Langbroek 16:11
That's what Hughsey would always say to me. He goes, ‘if you keep doingit long enough they'll start calling you a legend’.
Alex Brooks 16:22
It's so true. It's so true. It is true. But what doyou think about humour in the age of the algorithm? Right? So when we were young, we didn't go on a phone and get shown the one thing that makes us laugh.So I've noticed, because, you know, I get distracted by those videos like everybody else, and I'm really into the babies, golden retriever videos and thedry retch videos, and that's all I get in my feed. But now I'm like, I never knew that Ithought dry retching was funny until I got so many in my feed.
Kate
And you do get them right now?
Alex
I get it all the time, and they make me laugh without fail. But howwould I have known that without an algorithm? And I'm like, how do funny peopleeven relate to this world of algorithmic humour?
Julia
Oh, my God, they're too busy self hating. You're not thinking about algorithms. It' snot about the inputs, about the output.
Kate Langbroek 17:15
I try to control my input because I find that it's not helpful.
Alex
OK, you’re good
Kate
No, no, I try. I'm not good. Like all of us, it's designed to enslave us, and it's designed by finer minds than mine. So we've got no absolutely
Julia Morris 17:32
Absolutely. I didn’t even know I had ADHD until 56 I got absolutely no idea.
Kate Langbroek 17:36
So I try to keep my channel clear. But even as I say that,
Alex
OK, what are your videos?
Kate
For some reason, I have some, well, mine is nice soldiers returning from and surprising their children at school.
Julia
Oh, my goodness, I love it.
Kate
And soldiers returning from war and their dogs greeting them. I don't know how, but oh, and I love to weep.
Julia Morris 18:07
Oh, I what about leave an animal behind the jungle, but come back for it 10 years later and it still hugs you?
Kate Langbroek 18:14
Well, you got the jungle association, mine is army. Oh, people, but I do love it.
Julia Morris 18:19
People meeting at the airport. It's got similar vibes. I do always want to be worried about those children, because it's such a ferociously private moment, I feel like I shouldn't be looking at it.
Kate
It's got that power.
Alex Brooks 18:33
What about the ads you get in the algorithm? So I'm quite offended by the ads and I get in my feed because they show me clothes of really foul, old lady, things that I could never imagine.
Kate Langbroek 18:43
Well, that's interesting.
Alex
How did I get that?
Kate
For some reason, not some reason, obviously, for a reason. But to me, it was like seemingly out of the blue, because I hadn't Googled anything, and it popped up, I think, in Daily Mail or whatever it was: hairstyles that women over 50 shouldn't have.
Julia
Written by someone who's 20.
Kate
But it would be like every day. And I'm like, and of course, my hairstyle’s in it.
Julia Morris 19:11
Oh, I’d be like, ‘good on me’ and I’d take that reference to the hairdresser. Can I flick it at the side? How can I do that?
Alex Brooks 19:19
But do you get belly fat ads as well?
Julia Morris 19:25
Yes. Nonstop.
Alex
Why?
Julia
Well it won't be the men. That's what I
Kate Langbroek 19:28
Men get belly fat? You're right.
Julia Morris 19:30
They won't get belly fat because beer bellies. But that’s hiding behind the algorithm.
Kate
I’m going to ask my husband
Alex Brooks 19:39
You should, because I think it's very telling, really weird stuff.
Julia Morris 19:43
Oh god, yeah. Now I get all the HRT, all the ADHD ads. Oh, ADHD, the algorithms helped me with that, for sure.
Kate
Oh really
Julia
The algorithm has helped me to learn more about ADHD.
Kate Langbroek 19:58
Oh that’s like when we were going to Japan. So suddenly they started spamming us and suddenly there was so much good information. It was actually brilliant. It taught me about using this sweeper yeah. Oh, the card for the public transport,
Alex
Like your Myki card?
Kate Langbroek 20:16
Unlike Mikey, it's very efficient and effective. And you can just swipe your phone.
Julia Morris 20:22
It was brilliant. It does similar things to the Citro card.
Kate
Actually, yes.
Julia
You can run it any time.
Kate Langbroek 20:28
And you can use it for a number across a number of things, it's actually great.
Alex
There you go.
Kate
It's for specifically for travelling in Japan but, but, you can use it to pay for other things on it.
Alex Brooks 20:39
How amazingly clever, yeah, yeah.
Kate Langbroek 20:41
What a beautiful thing, look at her how she just took us there
Julia Morris 20:43
75 years in the business, you see
Kate Langbroek 20:51
Look at her where she just took us.
Julia Morris 20:56
I just had a little Kool Aid and did a little slurp slurp. Getting those things in order as a solo woman in my house and as the solo wage earner, it is definitely something that I'm only interested in now
Kate Langbroek 21:05
Also I remember when you broke up with your husband and you said tome,’I've taken over all this stuff I’ve never even looked at before’.
Julia
Oh my godfather
Alex Brooks 21:17
For an ADHD person that's hard.
Kate Langbroek 21:20
It was unbelievable. But also because I'm in the situation that Julia was in before, where my husband runs all that side of things. And it did make me go, I think I want to leave my husband. No, but it did make me go in the event of
Alex Brooks 21:37
A terrible thing
Julia Morris 21:38
Yeah, that's a lot of up skilling at once.
Kate Langbroek 21:42
Yeah, and I don't even know the passwords
Julia
Oh, my Godfather Absolutely yeah.
Alex
You need to know your passwords
Kate
So that did make me go, I need to be more cognizant of what's going
Julia
And it's not like it’s been kept from us. Every time -well I don't know what happened in your house - but every time, when I was married, I would be like; ‘Oh, should I know about this’, it'd be so confusing for my brain that I would be like, ’Oh God, I can't discuss this at 8 o’clock at night, you know?’ I mean, so then I would never get around to learning anything about our banking. I just, I don't know, did I think the card was just going to tap forever? Like, it's not like I'm wealthy, you know, at all, we're still working.
Kate Langbroek 22:20
The card does tap forever.
Julia
It doesn't? It does if you put money in at the end of it
Kate
Does it? Yeah,
Alex Brooks 22:29
So what was your very first paid job?
Julia Morris 22:32
My very first paid job was on New Faces, and I still have the cheque.
Kate
Oh did you get paid for it?
Julia
Yeah. It was for $20 because my mum said, I'll give you the $20, fromchannel 9. I think that's something you want to keep.
Alex
A good mum,
Kate Langbroek 22:48
Did you not cash the cheque?
Julia Morris 22:54
I think that those early things, you know, with the kids, the veryfirst thing, and that was my first cheque for $20. Yeah, my apologies to Channel Nine for not being able to balance the books.
Kate Langbroek 23:08
My first job was Coles Deli in Woodridge, which is in Logan in Brisbane. Really,
Alex Brooks 23:29
What was the chosen meat that was in demand?
Julia
Soccer ball ham!
Kate Langbroek 23:35
It depended no, the shoulder ham, the square, one was quite popular.
Julia Morris 23:40
What part of the shoulder is square, by the way?
Kate Langbroek 23:42
That's it, yeah. Where did the aniseed balls come from? It’s like that.
Julia Morris 23:52
That’s for later, though?
Kate Langbroek 23:53
But there were really cute things. I remember at the time that there would always be this old lady. So I worked late night, shopping, Thursday night and Saturday morning, and there would be this old lady who would come in,
Alex
She was probably younger than we are now
Kate
No she wasn’t. And every week she'd come in, she was a pensioner, and she would go, ‘I bought a chicken in here on Monday, and it was really tough, and I couldn't save it because it would have gone off. But I brought the bones in a bag’. And our deli manager would give her a new chicken. And it happened every week that I was at work.
Julia Morris 24:35
Not like a tenner on a bachelor handbag
Kate Langbroek 24:39
knew what was going on. Everyone knew, but it was just, I know, it was really lovely.
Alex
They were kind.
Kate
They were really kind.
Alex Brooks 24:46
She had the gumption to do that absolutely.
Julia Morris 24:47
These days, everyone gets a slap down. You know what? No one is doing that sort of thing because they've got loads of dosh and they're trying to, youknow, pull the wool over someone’s eyes.
Kate Langbroek 24:56
You know, who doesn't love a chicken? I know myself when it was my job to work on the rotisserie, a lot of those chickens lost their wings tender. And then when I would be in the cold room mixing up the big batch of coleslaw, sometimes the wing would follow me in there and just demand that it be disposed of with some fresh coleslaw.
Julia Morris 25:20
I was left alone at KFC one afternoon in year 10, and I …
Kate Langbroek 25:24
What do you mean? Did you work there?
Julia Morris 25:27
When you were saying first job, I was thinking, show biz jobs. Now my very, very first job was to clean the windows of the East Gosford news agency. Not one of my special gifts. And KFC. I ate so much because no-one was on my shift. No one was there. I was there. I was left by myself. The manager had stepped out. I ate so much that I vomited. I had to go home and and had to leave the store.
Alex
With no one there?
Julia
No mobile phones. Couldn't ring my boyfriend to pick me up.
Kate Langbroek 25:54
What happened? Was the chicken still there? It was a high trust society.
Julia Morris 25:58
The chicken was still there. The 11 secret herbs and spices. No one stole the secret.
Alex Brooks 26:02
But you know, aniseed is in that.
Julia Morris 26:04
Aniseed is in it as well?
Alex
Those aniseed balls.
Kate Langbroek 26:08
Well, that's like the nuggets, where are the nuggets on the chicken?
Julia Morris 26:12
The feet. But no, no, not in a commercial kitchen, obviously.
Kate
Good save Julia. She's a pro.
Julia
Hashtag … losing feet.
Alex Brooks 26:25
But our we're probably one of the first generations that sort of grew up with a little bit of this thing called compulsory superannuation. It came, yeah, like late 80s and 90s. Oh,
Julia Morris 26:33
And did they scared us at the time? Do you know? Because they're like, there'll be pension for your parents, but no pension for you,
Alex
Which is a lie, by the way. A lot of people still think there's going to be no pension, but that's not actually true.
Kate
How do you know?
Alex
It's not going to go away. What are they going to do? Legislate tomorrow? It’s like getting rid of Medicare.
Julia Morris 26:51
Not many of us have been able to work, so I guess there's no …
Kate Langbroek 26:53
But what they have done is push it out later and later so that our kids will have to be 100 before they get it.
Alex Brooks 27:02
Yes, I hope not. But, yeah, the pension is still a thing in Australia. But there is a misconception that there isn’t.
Kate Langbroek 27:11
I like to hear that, yeah,
Alex Brooks 27:12
And I think most people don't understand that super, also it, it's designed to be spent. Like you go skiing. You spend your kids inheritance.
Kate Langbroek 27:21
Yeah, super. You're not supposed to hang on to it..
Julia Morris 27:25
My girlfriend said to her parents, ‘what's with the new fridge?’ The other is perfectly fine. She's like, the inheritance …
Alex Brooks 27:33
It’s gonna be a big issue. Do you worry about your kids being able to buy a house?
Julia Morris 27:40
Definitely, you know, I don't expect my my parents, their entire lives, were driven towards leaving a legacy for us because there wasn't lots of money.
Alex
Yeah, yeah.
Julia
So right now, when I find that, and I don't find it disposable in anyway, because you can always, always use any help at all, but I would rather they had done something more with that money for themselves, you know, like
Kate Langbroek 28:06
They worked like that was they were just not wired like that.
Julia Morris 28:08
No, not at all.
Alex Brooks 28:10
But Kate, your parents were missionaries. Yes, they definitely weren't wired like that.
Kate Langbroek 28:13
They were more worried about the spiritual legacy. My mother still like because, yes,
Alex
Are your parents still with us?
Kate
Dad's not, but mum is, and mum's still hardwired to be, spiritual. Every time she's alone with the kids, she's like, everything's a teachable moment,
Julia Morris 28:34
Can't get another teachable moment, I must say, because
Alex Brooks 28:36
Because you were brought up Jehovah's Witness. But yeah, your mum's notJehovah Witness anymore..
Kate Langbroek 28:40
No, they left after I left. Then my brother left. And then this is so lucky, because a lot of families are rent asunder when they leave the religion. But then mum and dad left. And my dad was an elder, so it was like a big deal .And my brother was a ministerial servant, and he then became a politician.
Alex
Except no,
Kate
Do politicians have the servant mentality?
I don't know, some do. He does. Actually, his electorate loves him. He's very, he likes to cut a ribbon.
Julia Morris 29:12
They’re inspiring in a similar way. With religion and politics, you know, like, I feel like you could rule the world. Do you know what I mean, ifwe can have one person say, you know what guys, this situation is so bad,here’s what we have to do to change it.
Kate Langbroek 29:28
Now, as our society’s become more sort of secular, or whatever, and people have moved away from organized religion. That's why people have become so mental about politics, because nature fills a vacuum, and so people have become so binary about their choices, It's the politics has become the religion.
Yes, yeah, but it's and that's why they will go to war over politics when they don't even know the name of their neighbour.
Alex Brooks 29:56
Or their local politicians, just quietly.
Kate Langbroek 29:59
I just. I really, I just think it's that humans do have, I think, an innate desire to have some spiritual part of us nourished.
Julia Morris 30:10
There's a flip side of that is that ‘the guys see how good I am’. I've been given to the church. No, I'm amazing. They're the two that they're the two that religion together. Yeah, yeah, with, you know, the quest of just wanting to be better and live a better life. And ‘guys, I just want to tell everybody how I'm living, right?’ Yeah?
Alex Brooks 30:31
I want to know when they're going to start a political party for women over 50. Oh, what would be on the platform?
Kate Langbroek 30:36
It's the Teals. It's already done.
Julia Morris 30:41
You know what it should be called? That party? Get the fuck out of my way.
Alex
And stop my knees hurting so much.
Julia
Has anyone got a Nurofen?
Alex Brooks 30:50
Or a dexy?
Julia Morris 30:51
I think, I think at least, and only lately, everybody feels like they're slightly more open to listening to it.
Alex
Yeah?
Julia
Because when I first got menopause at 45 and at the time, at exactly the same time, my ex husband, who's my husband at the time, was diagnosed with breast cancer. So the pressure was so
Alex Brooks 31:11
Wait a minute so your husband had breast cancer, And then you were going through menopause,
Julia Morris 31:15
I just started, and then the doctor had said to me at the time, this will be massive with the mastectomy and all this sort of jazz going on. I just don't want … even though what's happening for you is different, and this is very severe. This can't get lost. And it did get lost. Well, we were just so focused elsewhere.
Kate
Of course
Julia
But there wasn't the yeah, there wasn't the well, what do I need to do about, what do I need to do about perimenopause? That's why there's such a gorgeous wave at the moment online, teaching everybody about this is when menopause starts. This is how it feels to journey because you never spoke about it. I never spoke about it. At 45 I was doing house husbands and the jungle, and I didn't want the honestly, hand on heart. I did not want the networks to think that I was getting too old.
Alex
Yep.
Julia
So I didn't say anything about menopause. I did a stand up show about ayear and a half later about the fury, because I found that so fascinating. ButI sell myself as do you know what guys, I'm actually just the nicest person inthe whole wide world. And then I get out the front I think I've always beenlike, ‘what's happening’. But not long ago, just to jump subjects, many times,I read something about with early onset dementia, is that the sooner you canadmit that the brain is glitching and not behaving, the sooner you can put somethings in place so you will be able to live a much less stressful life. And Ithink it's the same. We're starting to talk about menopause, putting somethings in place, learning what your body's nutrition and what it can't I don'tknow that what it needs to turn up.
Alex Brooks 32:50
Australians are actually world leading in some of this dementia research. A study just came out of the University of New South Wales, and they found, with the right nutrition and brain activities, you can delay the onset of dementia by up to a year
Julia Morris 33:05
Repetitive behaviors too,
Alex Brooks 33:11
Because brushing your teeth with the wrong hand, and Mediterranean diets, a lot of plant based food
Kate Langbroek 33:17
Learning a language, which I tried, and I think the dementia had already said in by the time I tried.
Alex Brooks 33:23
Because you went to live in Italy, did you know they like speaking Italian in Italy.
Kate Langbroek 33:27
They do. Particularly in Bologna, where we were, because it's not a touristy town.
Alex Brooks 33:33
Can you say ‘bella ragazza’
Kate Langbroek 33:35
I know I'm good enough. I'm great in a restaurant. I'm really good.Self interest is a good motivator.
Alex
Food. So you can order all the good stuff.
Kate
But in the course, I realized I was, well I was working over there for the first six months, and then in the second year that we were there, we went into lockdown. So there was not,
Julia
There was no normal life unfolding.
Kate
So despite that, I learned my vocabulary is pretty good, but we wouldgo to Italian lessons at the squalor near us. And my husband, who I found outis a great student. Oh, did you say suck? Anyway, so he the guy who ran theacademy that we went to, called him super pete, and he kept going up throughthat. And I was still, after 18 months, I was still in the beginners class
Julia Morris 34:28
As the tea maker who had to stay home make the tea for the parents. For many years, he
Kate Langbroek 34:33
He tried to put me up a class, and I went on Non, no, dodging me on so you
Julia Morris 34:42
See you’ve got to do what we did: we got London and we moved to Los Angeles, All English. Definitely helped the settling of the family.
Alex
But did you grow up speaking Dutch?
Kate Langbroek 34:50
Not speaking Dutch, but I can speak Dutch. So my dad spoke Dutch, and he taught mum, who was Jamaican American, to read, write and speak Dutch in three months. But then she said that was when they were courting, and she said he could have taught me to fly without wings.
Alex Brooks 35:11
She’s very spiritual. Well, she really is
Kate Langbroek 35:13
But speaking Dutch didn't help me with Italian. Because that's a romance language. Whereas, the Dutch, strangely, is not included as a romance language.
Julia Morris 35:27
Spent a big night in The Hague once.
Kate
Fun? What did you do?
Julia
Well, a lot of the comics were in the Hague Comedy Festival. A lot of comics were like, This is our chance to try mushrooms. And I was like, Oh, I'm sure they're going to be for me. And then somebody said tome, if you've never tried mushrooms, you just have to remember, you don't choose mushrooms. Mushrooms choose you. Oh, it's probably not this trip. And soI didn't, I’ve gotta return to the Hague and have a mushroom
Kate Langbroek 35:53
Hang on. I don't understand what that means. Mushrooms choose you.
Julia
Man, I don't know that's, I think that's mushroom people. That was mushroom talking. No, I love it.
Kate
I've got a lot of mushroom people on my Twitter
Julia Morris 36:04
Oh, hang on. Here comes the algorithm.
Kate Langbroek 36:07
And then they all DM me and go, how did you find me? I'm like, yeah, but then they’re adamant that they'll ship all over the world, which I findquite tempting, even though I've got no interest in mushrooms. I just thought there's something in me, naughty.’ Yeah, something's forbidden. I really wantit forbidden.
Alex Brooks 36:30
It might be a spiritual awakening.
Kate Langbroek 36:33
We've all heard those stories about a sister whose sister took a trip and never came back.
Julia Morris 36:39
How many more spirits can we get on board at this point? I've had a lot of the originals. I've had a lot of the news. I have, you know, I just, yeah, okay,
Alex Brooks 36:47
Ok, now, what about this whole very Yankee Doodle Hollywood idea of a bucket list? You know that you've got to do some things before you kick the bucket. Do you subscribe to this idea?
Kate Langbroek 36:59
There are things I'd like to do, but I don't necessarily associate them with death. But sometimes I do know, having had four children, yes, there are times I prayed for a premature death. I don’t want to be frivolous about it, but yeah, my husband used to say I received he said to us once, when they said to me once, when the kids were little, when I started going out with him, he was really paranoid about flying, and he'd always be really scared the plane would crash. And I said to him, you know, that's extremely egotistical to think that, if you look at the stats of planes that crash, that you're going to be, that you're going to be on the plane that crashes, it's not going to happen.That’s ego. Just that's there you go, right, which really seemed to calm him down. I don't mind anyway. But then he said to me, probably a couple of years after that, when we had little kids and we had four under six, yeah, he said to me, one day, you know how I used to be really scared the plane would crash. He said, Now I pray for it to happen. You know, there's always a different
Julia
It ebbs and flows.
Kate
It does. It really does. And as a parent, in one day, you can go from the greatest day of your life to catastrophe.
Julia
In four minute turnovers.
Alex
I couldn't agree more.
Kate
Yeah. Have you got a bucket list?
Julia
No
Alex
She's got ADHD
Julia Morris 38:19
Yeah, if I wanted to go and do it, I'd go and do it. So I like, I wanted to live in another country. I've lived in five. I haven't, no, I haven'tthought about having to do it later.
Alex
But is it better to regret the things you have done than the things you haven't?
Kate Langbroek 38:37
It depends what things you've done - murder, quite possibly cause for regret.
Julia Morris 38:47
I don't even know that I've had the time to ever regret. No. When I was little, my mum used to say, you’re gonna regret all the time that you waste sitting on your bed daydreaming. And I've never
Kate Langbroek 38:55
No, no. It's same with me. When I, like most actors, was unemployed, and my days were just filled with, yeah, my days were filled with watching daytime TV and catching up with …
Alex
But didn’t you write for Neighbours
Kate
I did write for that,
Alex
So it came to good use, right?
Kate
It really did, actually, and I think all that time, yeah, I don't really think it's different now with phones, I guess. But I don't believe so much in the notion of wasted time.
Julia Morris 39:27
I agree really, because I think you can pack and stash the point where you know your head's gonna explode, but
Kate Langbroek 39:32
I do think with phones, yeah, that's different. That's why we don't caveat, yeah, it really is.
Alex Brooks 39:38
And it's so like, you just think, Oh, I’ll look at one thing.
Kate Langbroek 39:41
No, you can't. Oh, do you know what I think? Right? This is just so this is bang, Nana, hitting zone.
Julia
Here we go. Sometimes I'm like, walking through a neighbourhood or driving through a neighbourhood, and I think how beautiful people's yards would look now, if we didn’t have phones
Alex
What, cos you think we’d all be gardening?
Kate
Because, well, because, literally, people would have an extra four or five hours in a day. Yes, that's the average, I think, of how much time people spend on phones. And I think in the olden days, people used to tend their gardens and grow veggies and
Julia Morris 40:19
Watching the telly and for reading back in the day, like you do nothing but read your head’s in a book all the time, yeah? But the old Cock
Julia
I mean, there's one thing I can't bear. It's a bit of old cock. I've said it for years.
Alex Brooks 40:37
There's two words, as you get older, that most of us start thinking about. One is the D word, which we've touched on dementia, and the other is the C word, right? You've lived with she was married to the c-word. Cancer. You’ve had a child with cancer.
Kate Langbroek 40:55
Oh yes, yes, yes, I have
Alex Brooks 40:58
These two things loom very large in our lives in a non-spiritualist way, like just a medical disaster. Yes, what the hell could happen …
Kate Langbroek 41:06
I don't think you can live. I mean, you know that saying a coward dies 1000 deaths, a brave man dies, but once. I do think when you're one of those people that's constantly anticipating,
Alex
Catastrophising
Kate
What you do is you rob yourself of every pleasure in the here and now, not just for you, but also with the people around you. So and maybe I feel more like that after Lewis, because, you know, I'm, I'm very aware of the fact that we had a good outcome with him, but he's still in the long term effects clinic.There's a cloud over him, but we know what the cloud is. Most people just don't know what the cloud is over them
Alex
Yeah
Kate
But if you spend all your time looking up, going ‘where's my cloud, where's my cloud’, you're going to trip over a gutter and break your nose. What does that benefit anybody?
Alex Brooks 42:00
But have you changed your health and lifestyle habits since you got older? Like, you know, do you
Kate Langbroek 42:06
Since Lewis was sic, I have.
Alex
Oh really
Kate
Oh my gosh, I'm such a cooker. I'm such a supplementer. Oh, yeah. Oh, look. I've got so many that I drift in and out of them, because I can't even maintain but I'm like a big magnesium, vitamin D person. I sun gaze in the morning, I ‘earth’
Alex
With the bare feet.
Kate
I did today.
Julia
I mean, astroturf
Kate
Two of the kids and I went and danced in the rain on the grass. And they wouldn't have done it if they knew that I called it earthing.
Julia Morris 42:44
We swam in the rain. Yeah, thought it was fun, yeah.
Kate Langbroek 42:47
Well, that's earthing. And I had this constant discussion with my husband about glasses, because he got them. He's just turned 50, and he got his glasses probably two or three years ago, and I said to him, don't get glasses because your eyes are muscles. I say this. This is not occular advice. I've got fucking idea what I'm talking about, but it just seems to me, yes, so your eyes are muscles, like any other muscle, and if you exercise get stronger.
Julia Morris 43:18
That's not the case with eyes. No, I thought, I thought, and I left fora long time before I just got glasses help. But what happens is that between the ages of 40 and 50 and just beyond, your eyesight, takes a little downward turn, but then it plateaus, and then we just keep going down.
Kate
Yeah, right. So hughsey was always when we were working together, which we did for 18 years, was so angry about the fact that I didn't wear glasses that he got an an optometrist in to test my eyes
Julia Morris 43:54
Pretty good. 2020?
Kate
No, not 2020 I don't think I can't remember the numbers. You know, I'm not good with numbers, but I also sun gaze every morning, which horrifies people. I won't even go into it, yes, because, but, yeah. So I'm like, a little bit …
Alex
You go rogue.
Kate
I'm a little bit Pete Evans, yeah, but I don't have the lamp. I'd love to hop in his lamps.
Julia
Get in the lamps.
Alex
Can I tell you about this healthy brain, this healthy aging Institute from the University of New South Wales? When you don't treat your vision or hearing loss, it's actually a modifiable risk for dementia, like if you leave your vision you're not letting your brain …
Kate Langbroek 44:41
That’s why I’m sun gazing Alex.
Alex
This is not medical advice
Kate
Morning, morning sun full, although sometimes I've tried to do it at lunchtime, I'm like, don't do that.
Alex
Yeah, it's too bright.
Julia Morris 44:50
Yeah. It sounds like it makes sense, though, that you're like, why not just train the muscles up? Like, don't let them go downhill with everything,
Kate Langbroek 44:55
Not even just the muscles. But now, because of these lights that we have since they took the incandescents away
Alex
That's right, we are LED now
Kate
Our eyes that require everything for the whole mitochondrial process, are only exposed to a certain spectrum of light, whereas if you get the light from the sun, you're exposed to the entire spectrum.
Julia
Yeah.
Kate
So, because we spend so much time looking at screens and under these terrible lights that vile light. Sunlight is so great for your eyes. Yeah
Julia Morris 45:31
Well, obviously the sunlight has its own drawbacks. Yes,
Alex Brooks 45:36
I was gonna say this thing called skin cancer too. You Queenslandersshould know all about it.
Kate Langbroek 45:39
I know. And it really Yeah, and it took a terrible toll on my Dutch dad, who was also bald. Oh, yeah, sorry. And that was really very evil. Yeah, they're terrible. Why does our sun hate us? Except in the morning
Alex
Except when you look at it, exactly, the angels are looking at you.
Julia Morris 46:03
I've had three malignant melanomas, so I tend to steer clear. And my emerging fourth, which ended up only, not only, but being an SCC. So I've just lost half my eyebrow last year. Oh, wow. With 50 stitches as they took out a pretty intense cancer.
Kate
It’s some fancy needle work.
Julia
I've coloured it in, this morning.
Kate
But look at that.
Julia
He's made me an eyebrow so that I can just colour in the curve. He’s done a magnificent job.
Alex Brooks 46:31
But yeah, the sun is mean to our skin.
Kate Langbroek 46:35
The Australian sun is cruel.
Alex Brooks 46:37
Yeah, it's we do have the highest skin cancer rates in the world,
Julia Morris 46:39
And it just does naughty stuff when you're not watching. Well I had my first mole removed at nine?
Alex
Oh my gosh.
Julia
And then I had my first melanoma at 21.
Alex
What?
Julia
21 Yeah. So I've been…
Kate
Who was onto it in your family?
Julia
My mum, because her brother died from it. So we were covered in cream. So unlike lots of Australian kids who were like, well, we just found out. We were covered like maniacs. But the second I was put in charge, mmm. Now looking back, I can understand it wasn't about me being in charge of being naughty and tanning, I think it was about the feeling on the skin.
Alex Brooks 47:12
the cream. Yes, gross. It still is gross.
Kate Langbroek 47:18
My dad was the same, and he was Dutch, and he was always, this is going to make him sound like a creep, which he was, not even slightly, but when we were in the pool, he'd always, I was going to say, when I was in the pool with my girlfriends that submit that I went, Oh, that sounds but he would always becoming out with some block.
Alex
Oh, good on him
Kate
May I rub it on you?
Julia
Clogs!
Alex
You will sink to the bottom.
Kate
Would anyone like a slice of Gouda? You have been to The Hague.
Julia Morris 47:50
Mushrooms. You choose mushrooms.
Alex Brooks 48:03
All right, the other thing, so we've talked about C words, D words, and then I read on your Insta that you share a toothbrush with your husband.
Kate Langbroek 48:10
All right? This is so controversial
Alex Brooks 48:13
So controversial.
Kate Langbroek 48:16
Okay? We didn't start out doing that. This is not the hill I'm going to die on either. None of us know the hill we're going to die on
Alex
That's correct.
Kate
But what happened was, it was just a war of attrition that I would always brush my teeth in the shower, shower.
Julia
convenient.
Kate
And then my husband was a basin brusher, yeah. And at one point we had something, and then we just, kind of just started using one toothbrush. I talked about it on The Project. And my daughter, of all the things that I have discussed. You know, I don't know what your girls are like, but I'm like, we've always maintained this thing in our house that the tail doesn't wag the dog
Julia
Correct?
Kate
In other words, this is my work. Yep, you live in this house as a result of my work. So everyone's rowing this boat, right? Absolutely.
Julia Morris 49:07
This is your contribution to our family, staying afloat.
Kate Langbroek 49:11
Because a lot of people are like, um, you can't talk about my son or my daughter. Won't you mention that? And I'm sort of like, well, who's the boss in your family? Yeah. Anyway, whatever that, when I mentioned that,
Alex
She lost it.
Kate
Oh, my goodness, I got a furious text message from her, and she goes, ‘You know what you said?’. So, yes, we share a toothbrush. But also, you know what? I don't want to shock people, we also have sex,
Julia
Let me go through the list
Kate
I'm like, I'm like, why are you so shocked by the toothbrush?
Julia
Are you having sex with the toothbrush? It’s electric. Ah, meet me at the charger.
Alex
Julia, I read that your bedrooms are jizz- free zone
Julia
100 years on in cheers. I'm living the happiest life on this planet.
Kate Langbroek 50:11
Do you remember the night my husband was over? Maybe it's not, no, no,
Julia Morris 50:18
No, I wasn't there at the time. It’s a little deposit. Like at the bank. Like building your superannuation. Making sure you’ve got enough money for the future.
Alex Brooks 50:27
But do you floss now? Do you floss as when you get older, you're supposed to floss more than brush, well, you're always supposed to floss. I know, but I knew I did that when I was young. Now
Kate Langbroek 50:37
I do it. Sometimes I do
Julia
So then how often do you do it? Yeah, are you flossing? I tried to get Yani to show me that the other day, and he was, he's 15, so of course, that's in his ancient life,
Julia Morris 50:49
That’s like asking him to show you how to do the Macarena. Yeah, correct, yeah. He
Kate Langbroek 50:54
did do it. He did do it. I never moved it properly. And he goes, Mum, it's so easy. Oh,
Julia Morris 51:01
I mean hashtag challenge anyway.
Alex Brooks 51:06
Okay, so flossing is one thing that I do now that I never used to
Julia Morris 51:09
I do. I’ve got a Water Flosser.
Alex Brooks 51:11
Oh, is it cool?
Kate Langbroek 51:14
Do we get one on online?
Julia
Yes.
Kate
Is it strong enough? I
Julia Morris 51:18
Yes. I got it at maybe the chemist? Oh yes, oh yeah. Watepik- non spon- and in the shower, I have to fill it up with my elbow.
Alex
Oh, that’s what I want to try.
Kate Langbroek 51:36
What do you fill mean it up with your elbow. Have you not got a chain?
Julia Morris 51:45
It’s got a little reservoir.
Kate
Oh to fill it up. Have you not got a tap?
Julia
I'm all about the boil wash. 100 people could use a toothbrush if you have a boil wash.
Kate
Oh, yeah so you like the shower. Aren’t you on my side?
Kate Langbroek 51:58
Yeah. But what's up with these uptight people.
Alex Brooks 51:59
Your daughter is one of those uptight people.
Kate Langbroek 52:03
Okay, maybe full disclosure, maybe I did say that the whole family shares a toothbrush
Don’t just cut that together and make it sound like the whole family shares a toothbrush. We do not all share a tooth brush. Nor do we all share a corn cob in the toilet. These are things that are not happening,
Julia Morris 52:24
yeah? All right, I’ve got some corn cob questions now.
Kate
That was Romanian.
Julia
I love it, yeah?
Alex
What corn cob question?
Kate Langbroek 52:31
I remember once on the radio, a listener called up, and they'd been tosee family in Romania, and they told us a story about a shared corn cob that was out
Julia Morris 52:39
of this world. Yeah, yeah. I like it.
Alex Brooks 52:40
See, I've spent most of my online life working online, and we used todo very well with Bogan baby names as an example. Right? You do lists of Boganbaby names? Be careful, though, don't you now? Well, the best one, well, thepeople that brazenly want their name on the Bogan baby names list, they're the most interesting people,
Kate
Thedasher?
Alex
Well, the best one that I had was the mother who gave birth in a hurryon the toilet, and then she called the
Kate
Was it a baby in a bucket?
Alex
Well, toilet, it's not a bucket, yeah, but the baby was called IndyLou.
Julia Morris 53:14
Ah, what a treat. And
Alex Brooks 53:16
And that child would be a teenager now
Kate
Did they spell it l-o-u?
Julia Morris 53:21
I love how much the child's gonna love it later
Alex
Don't you think?
Julia
Yeah, can't wait. They'll be pretty chill.
Kate
Do you reckon
Julia
Oh Indy. Lou, that joke will have started in kinder
Julia Morris 53:34
My, my Sophie's my youngest daughter loves talking about how her first word was. Cheers.
Alex Brooks 53:40
Oh, really, did you just make that up that her first word was cheers, no,
Julia Morris 53:44
No, she said it, she is she really, I think just every time we weretogether, we were like ‘cheers’
Alex Brooks 53:47
Oh, so she didn't say, mummy, she said cheers?
Julia
She said ‘cheers’
Kate Langbroek 53:54
Can I just throw a bit of name trivia in here, in here, yeah, and I think it was in this very suburb. Oh, that was a girl whose surname was Cotton and her first names were Polly, Esther
Julia Morris 54:09
Oh, how lovely.
Alex
I don't believe you. Maybe it's from your daytime TV watching.
Kate
I think it’s true
Julia Morris 54:16
When I was pregnant with my first baby, cotton, I made up the name Shaniqua Slough-quell Bethany Leanne Rhimes Destiny Jasmania. Then whenever asked me what her name was going to be, that's what I said it was.
Kate
Say it again.
Julia
It was Shaniqua slough quell, Bethany Leanne Rhimes Destiny Jasmania
Alex Brooks 54:36
I like the way Leanne Rhimes got in there
Julia Morris 54:40
L-E-E but then a small a, n, n, e,
Alex Brooks 54:41
yeah. And do you remember all those people that spell names,like Belinda, B, Y, L, Y,
Kate Langbroek 54:48
sure.
Julia Morris 54:50
Hashtag MOE, We love it. You love it
Kate
Pigsheads through the window.
Julia
I have a girlfriend Marcella and she said ‘the only thing about having. Any, and that's not even an unusual name at all, Marcella, but she just said The constant spelling, yeah, makes me nuts.’
Alex
Yeah, Mark-ella , is what it looks like
Julia
Yeah, it's just like, M, A, R,C, E, l, L, A. is it Marsella? Is it Mark-ella?
Alex Brooks 55:15
Oh, okay, yeah.
Kate Langbroek 55:19
This is going to be very controversial.
Julia Morris 55:21
Oh, she loves it. Here we go. Light it up.
Kate Langbroek 55:24
The Kristys of the world and the Kirsties of the world have to gettogether and decide one half of them is gone. We cannot. We cannot have Kristy and Kirsty. It's impossible. It's not fair. It's not
Alex Brooks 55:42
That’s like Lang-Brook and Long-Brook really,
Kate Langbroek 55:45
Well, no it's not, I'll tell you why. It's not Long-Brook doesn't exist. So that was purely an invention on your behalf, but the Kristys and the Kirsty’s have you ever had such a mind boggling
Julia Morris 55:59
What about how you have to pull the I to the front or your middle I to say the name properly.
Kate Langbroek 56:04
Which are you? Are you a Kristy or a Kirsty? What? Every time you seeone of them coming at you with the office, you're like,
Julia Morris 56:11
Oh my God. I know so many Kristy’s I love, and I know so many Kirstys Iove.
Kate
How do you tell them apart?
Julia
I just keep them separate. I don't let them see it.
Kate Langbroek 56:20
No, you can't. You can't get her in the room anyway, that's all. Yeah.
Alex
Okay, so we're gonna move to the wrap.
Kate
Now I'm gonna tell you what I love your I really like your commitment to ..,
Alex
Pronunciation?
Kate
Yeah, and to the fact that you haven't made a mistake. She's adamant that in the world, there’s a Longbrooks.
Julia Morris 56:40
There’s gotta be, well, it makes me think of longhorn. What other long things could there be?
Kate Langbroek 56:47
Let me just tell you this, that if there's a Langbrook they're related to me.
Alex
Oh, really, yeah. And my dad used to say it when we were growing up, when we were always my brother - John Paul and I - we’d roll our eyes. And then years ago, when I started on a TV show called The Panel, I got a letter from someone in Holland saying, Hello, I saw your name
Julia
Ja!
Kate
How is, how are your clogs? Saying, if you're a Lang-Brook, we must be related. There's only one langbrook family.
Alex
Really
Kate
Since then, another cousin.
Julia
Have you done ‘Who do you think you are?’
Kate
No, I haven't done it
Julia
It’s a beautiful experience.
Kate
What? Who do you think you are? Exactly? What did you find out?
Julia Morris 57:28
Oh, gosh so many windows, so many windows. Back from IRA to actually -beg pards - pre-dating IRA, IRB.
Kate
Oh, what was that?
Julia
Republican Brotherhood, our brotherhood. And then what are the windows little Irish Logan? So my, my father's great, great great came out in that in the army that looked after Logan, as they broke ground in Queensland.
Kate
Oh so great, great, great, great, great, great, grand mother was the first. She was the first prison warden for the women's jail.
Alex Brooks 58:07
She was a screw. She's a screw. Vinegar Tits
Julia
Oh gosh. I mean, we love giving instructions in our family,
Kate Langbroek 58:14
No, I don't mean this in any way as an insult, but I can see it
Julia Morris 58:21
No insult. All right, we're good
Alex Brooks 58:24
We’ve got to move this to a conclusion. I'm gonna give you up first, Kate, I'm gonna give you two words, and you just need to tell me the automatic choice between the two choices.
Kate
All right, then - do I have to buzz in?
Alex
No, you can just recite all right, dogs or cats?
Kate
Dogs
Alex
Ice cream or chocolate?
Kate
(Inhales)
Julia Morris 58:47
You all right? Need some support? Oh, got your back. Girlfriend
Kate
Chocolate
Alex Brooks 58:49
Tim Tams or Mint Slice?
Kate Langbroek 58:56
Get behind me, satan? What have I ever done to you?
Julia Morris 59:07
I can’t believe it’s not clear.
Alex
I can’t believe it’s not clear, either?
Kate Langbroek 59:11
A mint slice? There's a perfect time for mint slice. It's Tim Tam is every … but I'm going to go Mint Slice. You know why? I can't live without one but Tim Tam. I think I've taken for granted. I'm like you with the KFC …
Julia
Yeah?
Kate
I’m chocablock full of Tim Tams. This body, you know how Sophia Loren said everything I am, I owe to pasta
Julia
Yeah
Kate
That's how I am about Tim Tams and non-spon, they don’t want the spon. Not from me. Not about what Tim Tams have done
Julia Morris 59:45
They’ll be begging for the spon
Alex
Laughs or love?
Kate Langbroek 59:50
Well, you cannot have one without the other one.
Alex
Okay? Good money or laughs?
Kate
Oh, money, because poverty is not fun
Julia
No. And also, you can buy a laugh.
Kate
I could get you in my lounge room every night if I had enough moula
Julia
Or in any other room of the house
Alex Brooks 1:00:07
10,000 steps or $10,000
I mean, what would you rather do?
Kate
What? Everyone would rather have 10,000 dollars.
Julia Morris 1:00:14
You know what I love: walking
Kate Langbroek 1:00:19
Well, walking to the bank to deposit $10,000 I just think, if we are hard-talking about the future, there's nothing better you can do than to make sure that you've got some moula.
Alex
Yeah, I do too
Kate
You’re not to go into old age in in a state of poverty. It happens totoo many women in Australia,
Julia Morris 1:00:38
Plenty, plenty. People in their cars
Kate
But women in particular, because…
Julia
You get to this point, you're like, ‘Well, okay, I thought that we had this. Not only do I not have half, I don't even have a quarter.
Kate Langbroek 1:00:51
And sometimes, if you've had a marriage that's ended, then you find that you're cut out of a lot of the a lot of the money.
Julia Morris 1:01:00
I think it's maybe two steps between where you are and your car.
Kate Langbroek 1:01:07
So I'm taking the $10,000
Alex Brooks 1:01:09
Toddlers or teenagers?
Kate
Oh, teenagers.
Alex
Okay, binge eat or binge watch?
Kate Langbroek 1:01:17
I can do both
Alex Brooks 1:01:20
A good night in or a good night out?
Kate Langbroek 1:01:24
A good night out. Okay,
Alex Brooks 1:01:25
Wrinkles or gray hair?
Kate
Oh, wrinkles
Alex
Book or movie?
Kate Langbroek 1:01:34
I'd like to pretend book, but I'm really movie
Alex
Old or young?
Kate
In husbands, young!
Alex Brooks 1:01:41
Beautiful. Okay? Now, Julia, the focus is on you now: High Heels or flats?
Julia
Flats
Alex
Early bird or night owl?
Julia Morris 1:01:51
Night Owl
Alex
Good night's sleep or good night sex?
Julia
Good night's sleep.
Alex Brooks 1:01:56
City or country?
Julia Morris 1:01:58
I've had enough sex.
Alex
City or country?
Julia
City
Alex
Beach or jungle?
Julia Morris 1:02:05
ha beach
Alex Brooks 1:02:07
Good hairdresser or good dresser
Julia Morris 1:02:15
I feel like I can do both. But I also enjoy the contribution of both
Alex Brooks 1:02:22
That's, that's a non answer on that one, okay, shapewear or lingerie?
Julia Morris 1:02:26
Never, ever, ever, ever a reason for shapewear.
Kate Langbroek 1:02:31
Really, never, what is that stuff holding itself up? Oh, you're veryYou're very good. Yeah, I know you're very good.
Julia Morris 1:02:41
I wear a big undy, but I wear a size 18 so it doesn't touch me anywhere.
Alex
She's got the autism thing going on
Kate Langbroek 1:02:44
Doesn’t like the feels. Yeah. Anyway, I mean, press button.
Alex
Window seat or aisle?
Julia Morris 1:02:51
Always window. Really, Iove a window in
Kate
Who would choose the aisle?
Alex
I love the aisle. I do. On occasion, I've enjoyed the aisle but it
Kate Langbroek 1:03:02
When I travel with my husband, I know he loves the window seat, so I'll often, he'll, he'll take the window seat, yeah, and I'll be the aisle. But if he's not there, of course, I'm slap bang up against that window.
Alex
That's so interesting,
Kate
Not really, but thank you for indulging me
Kate Langbroek 1:03:19
I love it. It's a little nook
Alex Brooks 1:03:20
Health or wealth?
Julia Morris 1:03:23
Health is wealth. That's
Alex Brooks 1:03:26
True. And on that note, we are wrapping the midlife shift.
[ENDS]